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Boy I’m sure glad you and Thieme came along to set things straight! What a bunch of grimey little idiots the rest of the world is! From now on I’m going to listen to you guys; you know everything!

Just focusing on what Christ provided on the Cross. It did set the rest of the world on the right path, through grace.

BTW, instead of listening to us, we all have somebody much better to follow, namely God Himself. God the Holy Spirit now indwells every believer and makes a fellowship with God available to every human.

You are correct,...we all are grimey little people (but generally not idiots, as the idiots are not held accountable for their inability to comprehend) prior to becoming believers through faith in Christ. Part of that griminess, is the baggage we bring along with us, as be slowly learn Bible doctrine and how to remain in fellowship with God, through faith in Christ.

God’s brilliant Plan allows us to be condemned before we are saved. We are saved only by His grace, not by our works, thereby removing arrogance from the eternal state.

Judging by your name I think this verse should help you:

Psa_130:3 If thou, LORD, shouldest mark iniquities, O Lord, who shall stand?

Boy I’m sure glad you and Thieme came along to set things straight! What a bunch of grimey little idiots the rest of the world is! From now on I’m going to listen to you guys; you know everything!

This one may be a stretch for some of you, I don’t know.

However, for those of us who were involved in churches and schools in the 1960’s and 70’s that subscribed to dispensationalist ideology, the name R.B.Thieme (1918–2009) brings back some memories. Thieme was pastor at Berachah Church in Houston, Texas for fifty-three years, from 1950-2003. He graduated from Dallas Theological Seminary, where he was heavily influenced by the teaching of Lewis Sperry Chafer. While at DTS, his studies were interrupted by WWII military service, which also had an effect on his approach to life and ministry. He became affectionately known as “The Colonel” and would wear his military uniform in the pulpit on various occasions.

When Thieme became pastor of Berachah, he immediately dismissed the church board and inaugurated a heavy schedule of teaching services—four nights a week and twice on Sunday. His teaching ministry proliferated throughout the country and around the world through lectures, books, and tapes. At one point the ministry was reported to be sending out thirty thousand tapes per month. Those who have been connected with Thieme or influenced by his teaching include Hal Lindsey (he attended Thieme’s church and mentions RBT in The Late Great Planet Earth), Chuck Swindoll, and Dan and Marilyn Quayle.

By most reports, Bob Thieme was idiosyncratic, pedantic, authoritarian, provocative, prolific, reclusive, and condescending. Many of his teachings are downright looney and some so convoluted that even the diagrams he used to visualize them look like advanced mathematical formulae (see below).

He may be understood as a product of dispensational methodology gone to seed, military style discipline and organization, Cold War sensibilities, and a kind of intellectual hubris by which one creates his own system and then sets himself up as the only expert over it.

RB Thieme named his son, what else ?, RB Thieme Jr., and he inherited his dad's pastorate. Hmmm ...

Sometimes we live no particular way but our own
Sometimes we visit your country and live in your home
Sometimes we ride on your horses
Sometimes we walk alone
Sometimes the songs that we hear are just songs of our own.