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To: CynicalBear

Your comment: “I would have no link, ties, or association with the paganism of Catholicism. I belong to the universal ekklesia of Christ.”

So you are in a church by yourself. Sorry to hear that you are not baptized.

Just for your information (in the Bible):

“The Lord himself affirms that baptism is necessary for salvation [Jn 3:5]. . . . Baptism is necessary for salvation for those to whom the Gospel has been proclaimed and who have had the possibility of asking for this sacrament [Mk 16:16]” (CCC 1257).

According to 1 Peter 3:21:

“Baptism . . . now saves you, not as a removal of dirt from the body, but as an appeal to God for a clear conscience, through the Resurrection of Jesus Christ.”

Your comment: “Your still left with the fact that Jesus would have been sinning against the law of not eating blood had He and the apostles eaten literal flesh and blood.”

So again you accuse Jesus of sinning and ignore what Jesus actually gave us at the Last Supper. You either accept the words of Jesus or make excuses for His words.

This leads us to reflect on the institution of the Eucharist at the Last Supper. It took place within a ritual meal commemorating the foundational event of the people of Israel: their deliverance from slavery in Egypt. This ritual meal, which called for the sacrifice of lambs (cf. Ex 12:1-28, 43-51), was a remembrance of the past, but at the same time a prophetic remembrance, the proclamation of a deliverance yet to come. The people had come to realize that their earlier liberation was not definitive, for their history continued to be marked by slavery and sin. The remembrance of their ancient liberation thus expanded to the invocation and expectation of a yet more profound, radical, universal and definitive salvation. This is the context in which Jesus introduces the newness of his gift. In the prayer of praise, the Berakah, he does not simply thank the Father for the great events of past history, but also for his own “exaltation.” In instituting the sacrament of the Eucharist, Jesus anticipates and makes present the sacrifice of the Cross and the victory of the resurrection. At the same time, he reveals that he himself is the true sacrificial lamb, destined in the Father’s plan from the foundation of the world, as we read in The First Letter of Peter (cf. 1:18-20). By placing his gift in this context, Jesus shows the salvific meaning of his death and resurrection, a mystery which renews history and the whole cosmos. The institution of the Eucharist demonstrates how Jesus’ death, for all its violence and absurdity, became in him a supreme act of love and mankind’s definitive deliverance from evil.

Jesus said to them, “I am the bread of life; whoever comes to me will never hunger, and whoever believes in me will never thirst.q 36But I told you that although you have seen [me], you do not believe.r 37Everything that the Father gives me will come to me, and I will not reject anyone who comes to me,


200 posted on 06/16/2015 9:30:51 AM PDT by ADSUM
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To: ADSUM

Have you ever heard the little phrase regarding the spelling of ASSUME ... assumption is so destitute of Christian agape and filled with haughty catholicism’s poison as to disgusting. It is haughty presumption which asserts that because someone is not baptized into catholicism that they are not baptized at all. Reminds me of the foolishness PAul addressed regarding being baptized into Appolo, or Peter, or Paul.


202 posted on 06/16/2015 9:35:10 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: ADSUM
You accused, "So again you accuse Jesus of sinning and ignore what Jesus actually gave us at the Last Supper. You either accept the words of Jesus or make excuses for His words." Catholic, what Jesus gave US, not catholics apparently, at the Last Supper, the Upper Room Discourse is a ritual for REMEMBRANCE, using simple bread and wine, of what He was about to do for those who took the bread and wine. Jesus would not have violated the 'for all generations' command to not drink the blood. But catholicism, being a religion from a source other than the God who gave such a command regarding blood, insists that its adherents, its followers, its duped, drink the literal blood of Jesus.

It is a satanic deception to twist this remembrance into a cannibalistic ritual. To do this exposes catholicism as a religion not from God but from antichrist. Catholics follow these heresies at the peril of their immortal souls.

204 posted on 06/16/2015 9:40:06 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: ADSUM

*not as a removal of dirt from the body*.

IOW, NOT water baptism.


216 posted on 06/16/2015 11:58:41 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: ADSUM
>>So you are in a church by yourself.<<

Um, no, I am part of the ekklesia Christ is the head of built by the apostles.

Ephesians 5:23 For the husband is the head of the wife, as Christ also is the head of the church (ekklésia), He Himself being the Savior of the body.

The Catholic Church not withstanding it has survived and added many millions. The Catholic Church has tried to replace it but has not been successful. The Catholic Church is simply an imposter.

>>Sorry to hear that you are not baptized.<<

Your string of being wrong is unbroken! I am indeed baptised but not by a fake priest wearing pagan attire.

No go run down you rabbit trails by yourself.

223 posted on 06/16/2015 1:27:45 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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