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To: ADSUM

Have you ever heard the little phrase regarding the spelling of ASSUME ... assumption is so destitute of Christian agape and filled with haughty catholicism’s poison as to disgusting. It is haughty presumption which asserts that because someone is not baptized into catholicism that they are not baptized at all. Reminds me of the foolishness PAul addressed regarding being baptized into Appolo, or Peter, or Paul.


202 posted on 06/16/2015 9:35:10 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: MHGinTN

I never said that one is required to be baptized in the Catholic Church. Just that Baptism is required. The Catholic Church recognizes Baptism from other churches if done properly.

For a sacrament to be valid, three things have to be present: the correct form, the correct matter, and the correct intention. With baptism, the correct intention is to do what the Church does, the correct matter is water, and the correct form is the baptizing “in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit” (Matt. 28:19).

Anyone can baptize someone.

Unfortunately, not all religious organizations use this form. In fact, Jehovah’s Witnesses sometimes use no formula at all in their baptisms, and an even larger group, the “Jesus Only” Pentecostals, baptize “in the name of Jesus.” As a result, the baptisms of these groups are invalid; thus, they are not Christian, but pseudo-Christian.

Both groups also reject the Trinity. Jehovah’s Witnesses claim that Jesus is not God, a heresy known as Arianism (after its fourth-century founder), and the “Jesus Only” Pentecostals claim that there is only a single person, Jesus, in the Godhead, a heresy known as Sabellianism (after its inventor in the third century; see the Catholic Answers tract, God in Three Persons).


219 posted on 06/16/2015 1:02:26 PM PDT by ADSUM
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