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To: HossB86

But you quickly make the assumption that Catholics somehow believe they can ‘earn’ their way into heaven. I do not think that is the case. I have never seen such a point being proposed. Catholics merely point out that salvation can be lost if your faith does not bear fruit.

It’s time to release your holier-than-thou attitude and focus your attention on the non-Christians who need our prayers.


14 posted on 06/15/2015 5:05:45 AM PDT by beancounter13
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To: beancounter13
Th Catholic Church plays this little game: Faith saves, but to ensure your salvation, write nice big checks, follow all our doctrine, go to confession, buy indulgences, blah, blah, blah.

If you deny this is true, you are lying.

19 posted on 06/15/2015 5:51:53 AM PDT by Dr. Thorne (The night is far spent, the day is at hand.- Romans 13:12)
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To: beancounter13; metmom; Gamecock; CynicalBear; RnMomof7
It’s time to release your holier-than-thou attitude and focus your attention on the non-Christians who need our prayers.

Maybe you should stop trying to read my mind and read the Bible. And your CCC. I'm not saying that Catholics believe that they can 'earn their way into heaven' -- I'm saying that the Catholic Cult teaches that justification is by faith AND works.

Is this not so?

What I AM saying is that the Bible, God's Word, says otherwise. I'm not being "holier than thou" by pointing out false teaching and trying to spread the truth the Gospel. Besides, there just may be a lot of 'non-Christians' in the Roman Cult that may come to saving faith by reading posts that point out the truth.

Is not that something to be hoped for?

Hoss

25 posted on 06/15/2015 6:43:45 AM PDT by HossB86 (Christ, and Him alone.)
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To: beancounter13
But you quickly make the assumption that Catholics somehow believe they can ‘earn’ their way into heaven. I do not think that is the case. I have never seen such a point being proposed. Catholics merely point out that salvation can be lost if your faith does not bear fruit.

THAT is a works based salvation.

You have to work to attain it. it's works based, not based on the finished work of Christ on the cross which is complete and needs no amending.

26 posted on 06/15/2015 7:27:19 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: beancounter13; ADSUM
"Catholics merely point out that salvation can be lost if your faith does not bear fruit." Because Catholicism hasn't a clue that IT IS GOD WHO IS IN YOU, TO WILL AND TO DO OF HIS GOOD PLEASURE. If you see ANY work as necessary to fulfill or complete or fashion your Justification, then you have missed the most vital start of the New Covenant. Sanctification, on the other hand, is to be worked out with fear and trembling, for God is in you, to raise you up in the Way that you should go as a member in Jesus's family, and God does not withhold the rod to ruin the new born, He chastens His own.
38 posted on 06/15/2015 9:16:13 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: beancounter13
But you quickly make the assumption that Catholics somehow believe they can ‘earn’ their way into heaven.

That is what I was taught when I was a catholic. Maybe the teaching is different now, but if I misinterpreted what the priests and nuns were telling us, so did everyone else in my catholic high school.

113 posted on 06/15/2015 6:07:13 PM PDT by Mark17 (Through all my days, and then in Heaven above, my song will silence never, I'll worship Him forever)
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