Posted on 06/12/2015 3:29:33 PM PDT by NYer
Catholic ping!
Silly doctrine not commanded in Scripture.
One Apostle was chosen by lot to replace Judas.
One Apostle was chosen by the glorified Christ by being struck blind on his way to Damascus.
Neither method is followed by those who claim to replace Apostles.
Nowhere does Scripture teach Apostles will be replaced.
Scripture does teach they were a foundation for the Church.
Since Paul was the apostle to the (Gentile) Church, who are his successors???
In addition to reading this book I would encourage everyone to dig a little deeper into the Early Church Fathers. Answers are in both places.
Thanks for posting this.
Acts 13: 2As they were ministering to the Lord and fasting, the Holy Spirit said, "Set apart for Me Barnabas and Saul for the work I have called them to."33Then after they had fasted, prayed, and laid hands on them, they sent them off.
Nothing here about the transference of.."grace" ....
Where did Christ ever teach that the grace or gifts GOD gives are "transferable??
It is interesting to note that Cephas here could refer to Peter, in which case Paul is specifically condemning the apostolic succession that would be claimed by later Roman Catholics. But even if it is a different Cephas (unlikely), the rest of the passage makes clear that Paul condemns any succession other than from Christ to the believer.
Don’t they vote on it?
“Silly doctrine not commanded in Scripture.”
The Holy Spirit disagrees with you.
Acts 1:20
“The Holy Spirit disagrees with you.”
God prophesied that Judas place would be filled. It was.
That’s it partner. Done.
+1
Old Testament The steward Given keys to Davids Kingdom was replaced.
Christ told Peter upon this rock I build my Church whose sins you shall forgive they are forgiven Whose sins you shall retain they are retained
Peter then was Given the Keys to Heaven By Jesus the Keys were passed down to Pope Francis Today.
In Hebrew tradition a person given a new name is a Promtion in Power and Position.
Think Abram to Abraham
Think Simon to Peter
Think Saul to Paul
The 1st Pope Peter thru the 32nd Pope St Miltiades were all martyred I think they would differ they didn’t die for their Faith and position of succession.
Wow. I rarely see so many fallacies in one post.
The keys to David’s Kingdom were not replaced.
Peter was not given the power to forgive sins. You need a more accurate translation of Greek.
Peter was not given the Keys of Heaven.
The keys were not passed to any “pope” in history nor to the Global Warming pope.
Not every Hebrew person ever given a new name is “promoted.”
I admire your enthusiasm, but it is not based on facts.
Best.
“That’s it partner. Done.”
Nope. More men were chosen and made bishops. That’s Apostolic Succession.
That’s why the Protestant J. N. D. Kelly, wrote the following:
“Unlike the alleged secret tradition of the Gnostics, it was entirely public and open, having been entrusted by the apostles to their successors, and by these in turn to those who followed them, and was visible in the Church for all who cared to look for it.” (Early Christian Doctrines, 37)
In 1 Timothy 1:6 and 4:14, Paul tells Timothy that the office of bishop was conferred on him through the laying on of hands. In 1 Timothy 5:22 Paul tells Timothy not to be too quick in handing on this authority to others. In Titus Paul describes the apostolic authority Titus had received. (Titus 1:9; 2:5,15)
However, in Ephesias, the office of Apostle is mentioned as being one of the what we call the five-fold ministry. I tend to think that today’s apostles are what we call missionaries - they plant churches around the world. I certainly don’t agree with the Catholic doctrine of “Apostolic Succession.”
Exactly, Peter was an apostle to the Jews. Catholics seem to ignore this very basic fact.
AMEN!
This is one of the greatest heresies in Catholic teaching. Jesus wasn’t saying He was building His church upon Peter - but, upon the word of knowledge given to Peter as to Christ’s identity.
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