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1 posted on 06/12/2015 9:41:35 AM PDT by Graybeard58
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2 posted on 06/12/2015 9:43:51 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (17 more shopping days 'til, Graybeard 58's b/day! The BIG seven ohhhh.)
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3 posted on 06/12/2015 9:51:33 AM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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Anybody who has read even the 1st chapter of St. Paul's first epistle to the Romans understands what couldn't be stated more clearly.

And Paul can't be dismissed as an ignorant fisherman or something of the sort from flyover country. He was arguably the most learned Rabbi in Jerusalem before his conversion on the road to Damascus.

4 posted on 06/12/2015 10:08:20 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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The profligate liberal “church” has no problem going along with homosexuality because their own sexual sins are just as bad.


5 posted on 06/12/2015 10:11:06 AM PDT by Mrs.Z
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There is nothing new under the sun. Oh, we have cool gadgets, toys, and machinery. But there is truly nothing new.


8 posted on 06/12/2015 10:44:55 AM PDT by vpintheak (Call the left what they are - regressive control-freaks)
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I wonder if any of the apostles would even respond to these sleaze bags as in so doing it gives an impression of them having some credibility, and they have none.


9 posted on 06/12/2015 10:47:34 AM PDT by ravenwolf (s letters scripture.)
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The disparagements of traditional marriage are the small end of the wedge for prying religious freedom from our Constitution. If applied, the Bill of Rights would furnish the key for resolving the marriage issue by sustaining its religious essence.

For tens of millions of Jewish, Christian and Muslim believers classical scholarship concludes homosexual relationships separate them from God. The Old Testament, holy to “People of the Book”, speaks of the character, identity, and purpose of God in a manner, which continuously addresses homosexuality. God is identified as masculine and all humans as feminine in relation to Him. After creating all things, He created the single institution of heterosexual marriage to point to the love relationship He desires with humanity. For them any subsequent reasoning from scriptures must derive from that basic understanding.

Focusing on first principles regarding marriage renders irrelevant contrary moral exhibitionist arguments of fairness and tolerance, and the pecuniary arguments regarding taxes and social welfare. For the United States, all could be managed by the elegant expressions, and endless tomes legislators luxuriate in creating on issues from plastic bags to healthcare. People could then be free to do whatever in relation to business practice, and personal belief, but there seems to be little chance of that happening.

Allowing a popular civil trend to erase foundational Constitutional principle injects a crippling abscess into spiritual faith. Immediately these people reside outside boundaries guaranteeing freedom of religion to become guilty of cultural prejudice, and next confront logics defining their beliefs as criminal.

Same sex marriage tears the spinal cord out of the desert religions. What remains is a gooey substitute for spiritual faith which can be layered onto any secular philosophy. People will either buy into this new normal or be unable to benefit from this redefinition of the First Amendment.


10 posted on 06/12/2015 11:10:46 AM PDT by Retain Mike
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It seems to me that we are now living Romans 1.. God has given us over...and is watching the culture destroy itself before He comes to judge..

What we know is that man enters the world corrupt..loving self and sin ..

Having"laws" making sin an illegal act ...do not stop the sin.. the sin continues because man loves his sin..

The answer to sin is not "laws" but grace ..only the gospel can change the hearts of men..

11 posted on 06/12/2015 11:33:25 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Graybeard58

There is nothing new under the sun.


16 posted on 06/12/2015 1:02:27 PM PDT by HarleyD ("... letters are weighty, but his .. presence is weak, and his speech of no account.")
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OK, let's pretend that Paul didn't know anything about "modern" forms of homosexuality, depsite there being "nothing new under the sun". Let's just concede that point.

So these people are saying that an omniscient, omnipresent, omnipotent God didn't know about them, either?

Why should we worship such a God, if He didn't know what he was about? Oh, wait. That's kind of the point, isn't it>

17 posted on 06/12/2015 1:44:31 PM PDT by chesley (Obama -- Muslim or dhimmi? And does it matter?)
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Nero, whom was the emperor who martyred Paul, was homosexual and “married” at least two homosexuals (contemporaenously), one who was a “husband” and one who was a “wife.” He had the “wife” castrated to better play the part. So Paul was well aware of so-called “gay marriage.” Even the Romans thought it was demented, like Nero himself.


18 posted on 06/12/2015 5:41:04 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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