Posted on 06/02/2015 9:42:27 AM PDT by xzins
Old line holiness doctrine was about a 2nd work of grace that they referred to as ‘entire sanctification’. I haven’t heard ANYONE preaching or teaching it since I left seminary.
It no longer exists as a denomination. There are individual churches where it continues, but they are few and far between.
This reminds me of Gamaliel's advice to the Jewish counsel with regard to the teaching of the Apostles in the book of Acts. He warned them that if the Apostles teach was not from God it would come to nothing and if it came from God they would not be able to overthrow it and could find themselves fighting against God himself. The teaching of the progressive apostate Churches is not from God and those Churches are rapidly coming to nothing. ie. They will soon be shuttered. Just like the Gnostics, the Marcionites, the Pelagians, the Antinomians, the Donatists, etc. etc.
It is good news when these progressive churches see major declines in attendance and membership. It means that people are starting to wake up and realize that malevolent forces such as the state are overwhelming the institutional churches. These are the type of churches that will be used by the state to enable the submission of the public to the almighty state.
It’s not apostasy to reject an apostate church.
Thanks for the clarification. But you are correct in that “it is the rebellion against the rules without consequence.” The policy is basically what is allow now with impunity.
The church leaders took no action at their meeting in response to the report. Many leaders feel helpless to do anything about the decline
Ironic, isn't it? The "Good News" magazine is a place of despair. And truth be told, they've never been able to pursue the great commission. They've always had to be fully engaged in beating back the forces of evil. There've been some mighty fine Christians associated with the Good News magazine of the Methodist movement over the years, and all of them haven't had the joy of being "for" anything their entire lives. They've always been "against" the encroaching darkness.
I hope God has a great reward in store for them, but I wish now that I'd changed denominations 4 decades ago.
Impunity is exactly the word, fwdude. And the sinister side is that the leadership is behind the scenes encouraging that rebellion and promising impunity.
I agree with that grumpy. I think we've lost the UMC in the USA, because I have every reason to think the 'millennials' in the nation at large have swallowed progressivism and homosexualism hook, line, and sinker.
The UMC will fall in the USA.
But the millennial generation portends darkness for all denominations, including so-called independent churches.
Agreed.
The UMC has being dying for years. It is in its post mortem now. recently in the county I live in the UP of MI, the only methodist church has closed is doors, there was a recent rummage sale of books, dishes and etc, for a donation of $ to purchase the items. the building is up for sale too!
It’ll go cheap...the building. What else do you do with an old church building? Anything business related will have to bring it up to code. Anything residential will have to do massive renovation.
The best that can happen is some church movement buys it to start a new church.
That’s certainly why
I made my exit from the Methodist church many years ago.
Seek ye first the Kingdom of God.
Considering the “Work” that they do I suspect the government will start supporting them.
The government already supports them. Hillary, GW, and Warren are all Methodists.
To bad we can’t hook him up to a generator and power a city.
So if I live to be slightly past 90, I’ll see the end of what was once the largest Protestant denomination in the country.
This is true.
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