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Economist Warns (UMC)Church is in Crisis
Good News ^ | May 26, 2015 | Good News

Posted on 06/02/2015 9:42:27 AM PDT by xzins

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1 posted on 06/02/2015 9:42:27 AM PDT by xzins
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From the article: "“There is no question that our church is in trouble,” said the Rev. Thomas Lambrecht, vice president of Good News and an observer at the meeting. “What I fail to understand is why church leaders are not considering that the theological shift among many of our clergy in a more progressive direction could account for a significant part of the decline. The Connectional Table reveals a schizophrenic approach when it acknowledges our crisis of decline and at the same time proposes a ‘Third Way’ on marriage and homosexuality that will drive many traditionalists and evangelicals out of the UM Church. If their plan is adopted, it will only accelerate the decline of the U.S. church, as we learn from the experience of The Episcopal, Evangelical Lutheran, and Presbyterian Church (USA).”
2 posted on 06/02/2015 9:43:08 AM PDT by xzins (Donate to the Freep-a-Thon or lose your ONLY voice. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Good.

The UMC has long surrendered their belief in the inerrancy of the Bible. Maybe all their homosexual members and lay leaders will save their church.

How very sad. So many historical and notable people came from this once great and God-fearing church.


3 posted on 06/02/2015 9:44:50 AM PDT by Obadiah (This is Bravo-6, we have Zips in the wire! I repeat, Zips in the wire.)
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Most mainline churches have rejected the Gospel, alienated real believers and have mostly elderly congregations.

This article is correct, but should include the Episcopal, Presbyterian, Lutheran and Congregational churches across the country. They are all spiritually dead and will soon be shuttered.

4 posted on 06/02/2015 9:47:11 AM PDT by Dr. Thorne (The night is far spent, the day is at hand.- Romans 13:12)
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Like so many organization after them, the UMC succumbed to the pressure of 1% of homosexuals (the Boy Scouts come to mind) and then imploded.

Let their destruction serve as a warning to others.


5 posted on 06/02/2015 9:47:17 AM PDT by Obadiah (This is Bravo-6, we have Zips in the wire! I repeat, Zips in the wire.)
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Oh, instead of taking a cue from Congregations in Africa, Asia and South America which are growing~

Let's promote self-indugent policies like "Marriage Equity" (not that we care anything about marriage, except to drag it through the gutter)…

6 posted on 06/02/2015 9:47:57 AM PDT by CharlesOConnell (CharlesOConnell)
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To: Obadiah

Their belief in inerrancy is still on the books. On the books, they also reject homosexuality. What is happening in the UMC right now is sinister. It is the rebellion against the rules without consequence.


7 posted on 06/02/2015 9:48:50 AM PDT by xzins (Donate to the Freep-a-Thon or lose your ONLY voice. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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BS

Jesus started with only 12.

If you teach the truth and stop pandering to liberals that hate you and God both, you will start growing.


8 posted on 06/02/2015 9:51:01 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (You can't spell Hillary without using the letters L, I, A, & R)
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From what I understand, there are other Methodist groups which still adhere to the Wesleyan doctrines of holiness. I’m hoping that they’ll take in the fleeing biblical UMC members.


9 posted on 06/02/2015 9:51:18 AM PDT by fwdude (The last time the GOP ran an "extremist," Reagan won 44 states.)
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Instead, they are actively seeking ways to prevent the Africans from having the right to vote. Sort of the 2/3rds person rules of slaves are now applied to the Africans.


10 posted on 06/02/2015 9:51:26 AM PDT by xzins (Donate to the Freep-a-Thon or lose your ONLY voice. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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This economist says that if things continue as they are that this denomination is dead in the US in 2050. I agree.


11 posted on 06/02/2015 9:52:45 AM PDT by xzins (Donate to the Freep-a-Thon or lose your ONLY voice. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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The background hum is from John and Charles Wesley spinning in their graves. :-(


12 posted on 06/02/2015 9:53:21 AM PDT by PrairieDawg
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Most mainline churches have rejected the Gospel, alienated real believers and have mostly elderly congregations.

I know of one Episcopal congregation in Dallas were the youngest member is 65!

They are not gaining any membership, so they are basically on their death bed.

13 posted on 06/02/2015 9:53:22 AM PDT by fwdude (The last time the GOP ran an "extremist," Reagan won 44 states.)
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Church leadership, the Council of Bishops and others, have known for 30 years that the UMC is declining because it has lost its way theologically. Their commitment to social gospel issues over rides their willingness to make necessary changes. Elders leave the church or are driven out because of their fundamentalist and charismatic beliefs. Kangaroo courts abound in the UMC aimed at purging the denomination of conservatives. While there are a few exceptions this is the rule and it is devastating one of the most important movements in Christianity.


14 posted on 06/02/2015 9:54:06 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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To: fwdude

Most Methodist groups have abandoned their teachings on holiness.


15 posted on 06/02/2015 9:54:22 AM PDT by xzins (Donate to the Freep-a-Thon or lose your ONLY voice. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Wheat that has fallen among the stones


16 posted on 06/02/2015 9:55:05 AM PDT by PGR88
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On the books, they also reject homosexuality.

Haven't you heard the latest? The UMC has voted to capitulate on homosexuality as a sin - completely. They'll now be celebrating it.

17 posted on 06/02/2015 9:55:09 AM PDT by fwdude (The last time the GOP ran an "extremist," Reagan won 44 states.)
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I’m sorry to hear that. I thought the Wesleyan group was the last bastion of holiness.


18 posted on 06/02/2015 9:56:00 AM PDT by fwdude (The last time the GOP ran an "extremist," Reagan won 44 states.)
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That supposed vote is by a group with no power to do anything except take their vote as a request to the General Conference that meets in May 2016. The General Conference is the ONLY body that can change our rules.


19 posted on 06/02/2015 9:57:05 AM PDT by xzins (Donate to the Freep-a-Thon or lose your ONLY voice. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Absolutely. I was a life long member of the UMC. I stopped going to my church the Sunday after 9/11 when my pastor blamed the terrorist attack on World Hunger. He said ‘we must redistribute the wealth so that everyone has enough’. Tried the other UMC in town with similar results. I had found out earlier that the United Council of Churches had been taken over by Leftists and had hoped my church wouldn't go down with them. Unfortunately, the UMC has brought this on itself. I miss the church in which I was baptized, confirmed and married. I'm afraid it no longer exists.
20 posted on 06/02/2015 9:58:20 AM PDT by originalbuckeye (Not my circus, not my monkeys.......)
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