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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

In Ireland, with about 90% Catholics, there isn’t much room for variables.

Mix that in with the Catholics in America voting for the democrats and their gay agenda, the author has a point.


9 posted on 05/27/2015 12:41:29 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: ansel12

You still can’t say it has anything to do with it. Traditional Catholic teaching sees homosexuality as sin and gay marriage as wrong. The only conclusion you could perhaps make is that there are a lot of bad Catholics in those countries. Cause and effect being the opposite direction. Sin destroys faith, faith does not cause sin. One can call oneself a Catholic but if one does not practice or believe its teachings then one is being dishonest with oneself (yes yes, too many “one”s in there, lol).


14 posted on 05/27/2015 12:53:03 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: ansel12

Glad to see you finally coming out and agreeing with a world class sodomite! Congrats.


20 posted on 05/27/2015 1:02:33 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: "I should like to drive away not only the Turks (moslims) but all my foes.")
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To: ansel12

The author pretty much admits the real problem, albeit unwittingly, when he writes, (in-between breathless admiration of the lax Catholic):

“That’s because ‘Catholics’ includes not just worshipers who attend Mass weekly and perhaps tilt in a more conservative direction but those who go less frequently and those for whom Catholicism is as much an ethnic as a religious identity.”

It’s clear: in his warped view of what the Church really is, basically anyone who calls themselves “Catholic” and “votes according to [his] conscience” is a “Catholic” and probably a better one than who goes to Mass weekly and (gasp) “tilt in a more conservative direction” than their cafeteria counterparts.

Any fool can see this is what happened in Ireland and what drives the “progressive Catholic” in any country. It’s a “Catholic” not grounded in his faith but one who lets his “conscience” (i.e., his subjective whims) rule his morality.

Any fool can see that but it’s truly a worse fool who claims such “Catholics” are honest and true representatives of the Faith.


116 posted on 05/28/2015 10:39:24 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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