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To: NYer

Nothing in inspired Scripture limits baptism to men alone.

But then, priests aren’t a NT church office either, so the whole post is off...


29 posted on 05/16/2015 4:04:52 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "Forward lies the crown, and onward is the goal.")
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
But presbyters are in the Bible -- and that was the name used for priests then......does that make your statement false?

The text says, They appointed presbyters for them in each church and, with prayer and fasting, commended them to the Lord in whom they had put their faith. Then they traveled through Pisidia and reached Pamphylia. After proclaiming the word at Perga they went down to Attalia.

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This is why I left you in Crete, that you might amend what was defective, and appoint presbyters in every town as I directed you (Titus 1:5).

Proof that the word "prebysters" is in the Bible.

30 posted on 05/16/2015 4:07:48 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion; NYer

OOps! You probably didn’t notice that this is a Catholic Caucus thread. Please read but do not comment.


34 posted on 05/16/2015 4:22:18 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Cordially as always!)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion; Salvation

As Salvation pointed out description of the Church found in the New Testament includes the mention of presbyteroi (and episcopoi). It is actually from these Greek words that the English words priest and bishop are derived, (the former by way of Latin, the latter, directly) and in Greek, priests are still called presbyteroi and bishops are still called episcopoi.

There is a confusion in English because by back-construction from the idea that the presbyter makes present Christ’s sacrifice once offered on the Cross in His Body and Blood at each eucharist, the word priest has come to also be the English translation of the Greek hiereus, the word indicating one who offers sacrifice.

In Orthodox usage even in English liturgical texts, the Greek word is sometime used, and sometimes rendered as priests or priesthood instead.


36 posted on 05/16/2015 4:27:48 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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