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To: ebb tide

Not really. He is not The Rock. Jesus is.


5 posted on 05/01/2015 2:51:53 PM PDT by MamaB
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To: MamaB

I see that you apparently don’t believe in Scripture.


6 posted on 05/01/2015 2:55:31 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: MamaB; ebb tide; BipolarBob
Not really. He is not The Rock. Jesus is.

Thank you, MamaB, for posting your interpretation based on reading scripture in English. Why, dear friend, do you suppose Jesus changed the name of Simon to Cephas (Peter)? Why was he singled out from the other disciples? Did Jesus change the names of any other disciples? What does the name Cephas mean? Thank you for sharing your insight with us.

20 posted on 05/01/2015 4:22:30 PM PDT by NYer ("You are a puff of smoke that appears briefly and then disappears." James 4:14)
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To: MamaB; RaceBannon; metmom; Kandy Atz; WVKayaker; BipolarBob; Cletus.D.Yokel; RnMomof7; ...

Thank you all for your excellent posts in comment/rebuttal to the subject of this thread. We are much in agreement. Why so? I think it is because we are led by the Holy Spirit.

I will give you an example of what I mean by this. Years ago, my Dad’s boss where he worked in Des Moines brought a man over to his desk and introduced him...it was his minister. In the course of the conversation the minister took exception at something Dad said. He asked, ‘Do you know who I am? I am the man other ministers in this city come to when they have a question about what the Bible says.’ My Dad replied, ‘Do you know who I am? I am the man, when I have a question about what Scripture says, I ask the Holy Spirit.’ Needless to say that pretty much ended the conversation.”

John 14:25 These things have I spoken to you, abiding with you.
John 14:26 But the Paraclete, the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things and bring all things to your mind, whatsoever I shall have said to you.
John 15:26 But when the Paraclete cometh, whom I will send you from the Father, the Spirit of truth, who proceedeth from the Father, he shall give testimony of me.
John 16:6 But because I have spoken these things to you, sorrow hath filled your heart.
John 16:7 But I tell you the truth: it is expedient to you that I go. For if I go not, the Paraclete will not come to you: but if I go, I will send him to you.
John 16:8 And when he is come, he will convince the world of sin and of justice and of judgment.
John 16:9 Of sin: because they believed not in me.
John 16:10 And of justice: because I go to the Father: and you shall see me no longer.
John 16:11 And of judgment: because the prince of this world is already judged.
John 16:12 I have yet many things to say to you: but you cannot bear them now.
John 16:13 But when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will teach you all truth. For he shall not speak of himself: but what things soever he shall hear, he shall speak. And the things that are to come, he shall shew you.
John 16:14 He shall glorify me: because he shall receive of mine and shall shew it to you.
John 16:15 All things whatsoever the Father hath are mine. Therefore I said that he shall receive of me and shew it to you.

All from Douay-Rheims.

Jesus told his deciples that he would send another Comforter (Paralete). He did. The Holy Spirit.


125 posted on 05/01/2015 9:59:37 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders)
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To: MamaB
Not really -- Matthew 16:17-19
17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven. 18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
or in Koine Greek -- 17 και αποκριθεις ο ιησους ειπεν αυτω μακαριος ει σιμων βαρ ιωνα οτι σαρξ και αιμα ουκ απεκαλυψεν σοι αλλ ο πατηρ μου ο εν τοις ουρανοις

18 καγω δε σοι λεγω οτι συ ει πετρος και επι ταυτη τη πετρα οικοδομησω μου την εκκλησιαν και πυλαι αδου ου κατισχυσουσιν αυτης

in Latin tu es Petrus et super hanc petram -- You are ROCK and on this ROCK I will build my church

It would be illogical for Christ to say "you are rock and on me, this rock, I will build my Church" -- HE would have said "you are rocky and on me I will build my Church"

287 posted on 05/03/2015 6:12:21 AM PDT by Cronos (ObamaÂ’s dislike of Assad is not based on AssadÂ’s brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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