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Why Is Sola Fide So Important?
heidelblog.net ^ | April 16, 2015 | R. Scott Clark

Posted on 04/26/2015 9:50:11 AM PDT by Gamecock

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1 posted on 04/26/2015 9:50:11 AM PDT by Gamecock
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To: Gamecock

Because it takes good, Christian conservatives’ attentions away from the real problems we are facing by creating a FReeper circular firing squad.


2 posted on 04/26/2015 11:23:43 AM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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Nope.

Any problems a Christian faces here is the worst it will ever be for us.
Conversely, the problems faced here by a nonbeliever is as good as it will ever get.
The time spent on our problems here are nothing compared to eternity.


3 posted on 04/26/2015 11:42:13 AM PDT by Gamecock (Why do bad things happen to good people? That only happened once, and He volunteered. R.C. Sproul)
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Which will happen sooner rather than later if we bicker amongst ourselves, Christians, instead of taking care of the issues at hand.

Unless you’re trying to slice my head off in the name of your religion, or violate any of my other rights in the name of it, I really don’t care what flavor of Judaism or Christianity you are.


4 posted on 04/26/2015 12:38:11 PM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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Which will happen sooner rather than later if we bicker amongst ourselves, Christians, instead of taking care of the issues at hand.
Unless you’re trying to slice my head off in the name of your religion, or violate any of my other rights in the name of it, I really don’t care what flavor of Judaism or Christianity you are.

"Stop being afraid of those who kill the body but can't kill the soul. Instead, be afraid of the one who can destroy both body and soul in hell. " (Mat 10:28)

5 posted on 04/26/2015 2:36:46 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7

You miss the forest for the trees, and for that I feel sorry for you.


6 posted on 04/26/2015 4:17:24 PM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: Gamecock; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; CynicalBear; daniel1212; HossB86; ...

Abraham believed God and it was credited to him as righteousness.


7 posted on 04/27/2015 7:28:34 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom
Abraham believed God and it was credited to him as righteousness.

I believe it was after this, that Abrham began a life of good works, in gratitude to God, not as a means to establish that righteousness. Would I be correct in my assumption? 🇵🇭😃😄😀😂😱🙀

8 posted on 04/27/2015 8:07:38 PM PDT by Mark17 (Beyond the sunset, O blissful morning, when with our Savior, Heaven is begun. Earth's toiling ended)
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To: goodwithagun
Because it takes good, Christian conservatives’ attentions away from the real problems we are facing by creating a FReeper circular firing squad.

My life experience has shown me that the folks who want to "just get along" because there are other problems that are bigger are the same people who disappear when it comes time to deal with the bigger problems.

As far as why Faith Alone is so important it's because on this alone your salvation rests. What good is it to be right on everything else and then find yourself in front of the White Throne Judgement because you didn't believe The Gospel.

9 posted on 04/27/2015 8:28:04 PM PDT by wmfights
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To: Gamecock

Great article! Thanks.


10 posted on 04/27/2015 8:39:06 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: goodwithagun

And who was the first one on this thread stirring the pot with criticisms of causing trouble?

Don’t start a circular firing squad if you don’t want to see one.


11 posted on 04/28/2015 3:47:56 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: goodwithagun

Still here, eh?


12 posted on 04/28/2015 3:50:40 AM PDT by bonfire
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To: Gamecock
Why Is Sola Fide So Important?

Because the only place it occurs in the scriptures is in James ?

What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him? If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food, And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit? Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone. Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works. Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead? Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar? Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect? And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God. Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.
James, Catholic chapter two, Protestant verses fourteen to twenty four,
as authorized, but not authored, by King James.

13 posted on 04/28/2015 4:21:19 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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A more accurate translation reads 14 What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can that faith save him? (ESV)

Real faith produces works. Real faith saves. Works don't contribute to Salvation, but are evidence of being saved.

Suggest you read Hebrews 11. People are acting through faith and therefore saved.

14 posted on 04/28/2015 5:05:45 AM PDT by Gamecock (Why do bad things happen to good people? That only happened once, and He volunteered. R.C. Sproul)
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If you study the book of James carefully, you will see there there are three types of faith being discussed:
  1. Dead faith -- This is the faith that one has intellectually, but it does not move him, or cause him to act on it. It is strictly intellectual, like math knowledge.
  2. Demonic faith -- this faith is not only intellectual, like the above, but also affects the emotions. Unfortunately, this type of faith also does not cause the believer to act on his faith. Even the demons believe--and tremble.
  3. Saving faith -- this faith is not only known intellectually and emotionally, but also affects the will. The person with this faith believes with all his soul and mind, and it causes him to act on that faith--to produce good works.
One can believe all he wants, but if it does not push you into performing good acts, to love your neighbor as yourself, then that faith is dead or demonic. It does no good.

Everyone is known by their fruits (works).

15 posted on 04/28/2015 5:36:02 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Gamecock
A more accurate translation reads ... (ESV)

Would that be ESV, revision of 1971, revision of 2007, revision of 2011 ... ? Odd how Protestantism did not have a more accurate translation until one of these dates; it tosses the KJV under the bus and effectively admits they've been winging it all along since the great rebellion.

Real faith produces works. Real faith saves. Works don't contribute to Salvation, but are evidence of being saved.

Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure. Do all things without murmurings and disputings: That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world; Holding forth the word of life; that I may rejoice in the day of Christ, that I have not run in vain, neither laboured in vain. Yea, and if I be offered upon the sacrifice and service of your faith, I joy, and rejoice with you all. For the same cause also do ye joy, and rejoice with me. But I trust in the Lord Jesus to send Timotheus shortly unto you, that I also may be of good comfort, when I know your state. For I have no man likeminded, who will naturally care for your state. For all seek their own, not the things which are Jesus Christ's. But ye know the proof of him, that, as a son with the father, he hath served with me in the gospel.

Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand. He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still. And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
Phillipians, Catholic chapter two, Protestant verses twelve to twenty two,
First Corinthians, Catholic chapter six, Protestant verses nine to ten,
Galatians, Catholic chapter five, Protestant verses nineteen to twenty one,
Revelation, Catholic chapter twenty two, Protestant verses ten to fifteen,
as authorized, but not authored, by King James, but abandoned by Protestantism for more accurate translations

Suggest you read Hebrews 11. People are acting through faith and therefore saved.

I love Hebrews. They are our witnesses.

16 posted on 04/28/2015 5:37:21 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: ShadowAce
One can believe all he wants, but if it does not push you into performing good acts, to love your neighbor as yourself, then that faith is dead or demonic. It does no good. Everyone is known by their fruits (works).

Yes, let's test those words. Are the Jews, at least, the least of Jesus' brethren ?

17 posted on 04/28/2015 5:39:36 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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Are the Jews, at least, the least of Jesus' brethren ?

Can you re-phrase this question? I'm not sure of what you are asking.

18 posted on 04/28/2015 5:43:57 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: af_vet_1981
Would that be ESV, revision of 1971, revision of 2007, revision of 2011 ... ? Odd how Protestantism did not have a more accurate translation until one of these dates; it tosses the KJV under the bus and effectively admits they've been winging it all along since the great rebellion.

The King James is not as accurate of a translation as the ESV. I know there are plenty of KJV only folks out there, but that is a fact. Still it is a far better rendering than The Latin Vulgate

And for those out there who are lurking here is a comparison of translation philosophies:


19 posted on 04/28/2015 5:56:26 AM PDT by Gamecock (Why do bad things happen to good people? That only happened once, and He volunteered. R.C. Sproul)
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To: af_vet_1981; Gamecock

But it still all came down to faith didn’t it. Everything else was simply evidence of faith.


20 posted on 04/28/2015 6:01:39 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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