Posted on 03/28/2015 12:18:26 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
In 2000 years there will be less proof you lived, yet here you are.
Yes. And like NRX, I will have fasted throughout Great Lent until Pascha on April 12 and for two weeks prior to the Feast of the Dormition of the Most Holy Theotokos, the Mother of God.
the Catholic church teaches no such thing...Mary was not resurrected, she was bodily assumed into Heaven.....before or after her physical death is irrelevant....Christ experienced resurrection....Mary experienced assumption...two VERY different dogmas.
He is/was a Catholic priest, has a bad haircut, and didn't need that big a hammer to pound in 2 nails.....
I wish we all had. This thread is up to 80+ replies now. The title of this post was intended to provoke. It might as well have been titled 'Let's start a fight been Roman Catholics and Christians and stand back and watch the 'fun'...'
How can you be 100% certain of that......what happens if you're wrong???
read the Bible!!!...brought to you courtesy of the Catholic Church!!! Trust in the word of God and the Bible is, of course the source...
By proof, I assume you mean, other than eye witness or extra biblical proof. Most of the world would not believe even though some one came back from the dead to warn them of eternal judgement. Jesus himself said “blessed are those who believe and have not seen”. Now as regards the Assumption of Mary, there was never any prophecy regarding her, whereas there are many OT prophecies regarding the coming messiah’s sacrificial death and resurrection and second return. Whether you personally believe or not is certainly your prerogative... what proof do you need? Here’s a proof for you... Q) Why do atheists rail more against the God of the bible than they do Buda, Brahman or Allah? A) People don’t hate what’s not there.
Well, how about praying to in the first place?
Why would it matter? She does not have anything to do with salvation.
Sorry; thought you were a different poster.
A real excommunication would involve turning her away from/in church [think shunning] and certainly denying her an audience w/ the pope.
If Jesus did not rise we have no hope. If Mary is waiting for bodily resurrection there’s no real problem
There is no proof that Jesus or Mary rose from the dead
There are eyewitness accounts of Jesus’ Resurrection in the Gospels and Epistles. Furthermore, contemporary writings mention the sudden emergence of a religious group called “The Way” who claim God lived among us as Jesus who was put to death and rose from the dead.
http://www.bethinking.org/jesus/ancient-evidence-for-jesus-from-non-christian-sources
I know of no “evidence” outside Catholic doctrine supporting Mary’s ascension.
Resurrection of Mary? That’s not biblical.
Is this what the Mariology cult was working up to?
Try reading Josh McDowell’s “Evidence That Demands A Verdict”
Stroeble’s “The Case for Christ” is good, too.
You are putting down the Mother of Jesus Christ, true God and true human?
How are these verses from God’s Word “putting down the Mother of Jesus Christ?”
Do you have these pages in your Bible or have you torn them out? Mary was an amazing woman but she was only human. She cannot save your body nor soul. Only Jesus is sufficient. Jesus without Mary will save you. Mary without Jesus will leave you lost.
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Mary was not resurrected, she was bodily assumed into Heaven.
Is that recorded in one of the Gospels or in an Epistle?
Here is how it works.
I’ll explain it, though suggested that anyone criticizing the Church should read the catechism on whatever subject, before doing so.
Excommunication is a fact, not a judgment or process. There are no tribunals nor courts.
the Church explains to young Catholic kids and anyone converting to the faith that taking communion in the state of mortal sin compounds the sin and that person is in mortal danger of not going to be able to get into Heaven which is reserved for purified souls.
The Church treats, as God Himself does, all people as having free will.
This is not to mention those who are not baptized in the Catholic Church, then those of no moral judgment through mental incapacitation.
Very basically.
People who are Catechized and who have received first Communion are certainly and by Church law, Canon Law, are fully aware of this.
And that includes Nancy Pelosi.
Here’s what Cardinal Burke says
In a September interview with The Wanderer, a Catholic newspaper, Raymond Leo Cardinal Burke, prefect of the Supreme Tribunal of the Apostolic Signatura in Rome, sheds light on Pelosi and communion. He issues a call for pro-abortion politicians to be denied the sacrament — saying that Catholic Canon law must be applied to them.
They are excommunicated.
Excommunication is done from within.
If a priest refuses them Communion, (not to say keep them from entering the Church building), they are correct.
The USCCB, who has pressured Cardinal Burke on this and other matters, are one entitiy.
But the Church, the Canon Law, states that they are excommunicated.
And back to ‘how it works’:
Those (lets say Catholics) who die in the state of mortal sin will not ever go to Heaven.
God judges them.
If the USCCB and their particular Clergy are not admonishing them then they are the unfortunate, as they are the ones, Pelosi, for instance, who will find out quickly that Heaven is not a Dem GOP deal.
Any Catholic who knows the faith knows the weakness of people and knows that the Church itself does not condone Pelosi’s behavior.
It would be good for the Clergy in the US to condemn abortion and birth control.
Verbally.
It would be good for the country, as 50% of Catholics vote democrat
But each person has to face God alone, and Catholics are taught from a young age that if “someone jumps off the Brooklyn Bridge, they’re not going to follow”
Catechesis os way off and that’s on parents - it’s their neglect.
And it all stems from the acceptance and demand for birth control
So I suggest anyone criticizing the clergy, take a look at humanae vitae and see if they themselves are following it’s logical, moral, natural law teaching. the acceptance of birth control is the source of all of these problems
But Nancy Pelosi is excommunicated
If Pelosi shows up for Mass and attempts to participate in Communion how should the Priest respond?
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