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Is there a direct correlation between denominations that ordain women and ones that ultimately embrace homosexuality?
Love the sinner. Hate the sin.
Pray for both the sinner and the enabler.
“The congregations leaving the PCUSA today are not joining the PCA. They are joining the newly-formed Evangelical Covenant Order (a name that must have been invented by Tom Cruise and John Travolta) or the Evangelical Presbyterian Church both of which are to the left of the PCA.”
A lot of PCUSA congregations, even those that can’t stand the leftward lurch, are mostly run by women. Women are not leaders in the PCA. If a congregation leaves the PCUSA for the PCA, their female elders and deacons could no longer hold those positions, unless there is some sort of exception for entire congregations moving over.
And then He arose from the dead. I'd say that is culturally powerful.
Happy Easter!
False prophets have been a problem since the beginning of time.
One thing that I find interesting and perhaps important is that the Presbyterians and nearly all other protestant churches consider only baptism and communion to be Sacraments. So from a Catholic, Orthodox, and maybe even Episcopal perspective, I see the importance of strictly defining marriage. But if marriage is not a sacrament, then it seems to me that perhaps it is part of a more flexible cultural tradition for Presbyterians, Methodists, Baptists, and others who adhere to the two Sacrament view.
Obviously, the question of sin is separate and apart from the question of whether marriage is a sacrament. But, I am firmly in need of as much reconciliation and grace as God will provide to someone as unworthy as myself. So, I’m pretty cautious about casting stones.
If you have a good handle on the big picture of protestant theological thought, I would really appreciate an explanation of whether the sacrament designation matters. And, how one is to compare one sinner as against another (for I am certainly a sinner).
THY KINGDOM COME!
Through high school in KS, I had several friends and neighbors who attended the local Presbyterian Church and it was a fairly large congregation. I still stay in touch with one via Facebook and her postings show her to be very active in her congregation. This news just makes me feel sad for her as her mom was a very staunch member, even living in a Presbyterian old-age home until her passing. My friend lives in KS and doesn’t even have a PCA option as there are none of those in KS.
What we need to be concerned about is how much longer the Bible may have any kind of relevance whatsoever over the policies of our mainstay denominations.
I am currently attending an EPC ..It is a perfect choice for the PCUSA's that have already transitioned into a more "flexible" Presbyterian leadership model..
We have to remember that the term Presbyterian announces the church's leadership model not its doctrine ...
In the case of the PCUSA they have long abandoned a male leadership model laid out in scripture ..and have become churches with "mixed" leadership...
So the EPC allows each church to decide if they want the male leadership model or the "mixed" one
I left a PCA with an all male leadership that misused, misread, and proof texted their way through scripture ..to a church that has women deacons and women teachers.. but a strong reformed doctrinal position , scripture taught in context, a pastor with strong pastoral gifts and a love of the reformation doctrine.. this was an easy trade off for me.. I am loving this church. my new Pastor and the members .. and I do not miss the hit and miss PCA that is slowley moving to the left..