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To: kosciusko51

Well, I would use the word “foresaw” rather than “foreordained.” Because God did not MAKE Judas betray Jesus. But presumably Jesus chose Judas to be one of his disciples because He foresaw from the beginning that Judas would choose to betray Him.


14 posted on 03/05/2015 12:05:54 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero
But presumably Jesus chose Judas to be one of his disciples because He foresaw from the beginning that Judas would choose to betray Him.

Then why not let Judas be a farmer in China rather than condemn him to Hell??

22 posted on 03/05/2015 5:37:57 PM PST by terycarl (common sense prevails overall)
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To: Cicero
But presumably Jesus chose Judas to be one of his disciples because He foresaw from the beginning that Judas would choose to betray Him.

Since Scripture makes it quite clear that it was foreordained one of Jesus' disciples would betray Him, that would mean from the time that Jesus chose Judas, Judas was destined to betray Jesus, thus having "no real choice" in the matter, correct? Or could Judas prevented his betrayal, and not dipped right after Jesus at the Last Supper?

25 posted on 03/06/2015 7:15:19 AM PST by kosciusko51
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