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1 posted on 03/03/2015 4:01:41 PM PST by NYer
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2 posted on 03/03/2015 4:02:13 PM PST by NYer (Without justice - what else is the State but a great band of robbers? - St. Augustine)
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Turn away from the Catholic Church, and to whom will you go? It is your only chance of peace and assurance in this turbulent, changing world. There is nothing between it and skepticism, when men exert their reason freely. Private creeds, fancy religions, may be showy and imposing to the many in their day; national religions may lie huge and lifeless, and cumber the ground for centuries, and distract the attention or confuse the judgment of the learned; but on the long run it will found that either the Catholic Religion is verily and indeed the coming in of the unseen world into this, or that there is nothing positive, nothing dogmatic, nothing real in any one of our notions as to whence we come and whither we are going. Unlearn Catholicism, and you become Protestant, Unitarian, Deist, Pantheist, Sceptic, in a dreadful, but infallible succession.

You were saying something about "keep going after Catholics and Mormons because they're the ones ruining the world today"?

3 posted on 03/03/2015 4:07:36 PM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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There are actually 3 "branches" of Anglicans ...The "catholic" branch that would run to Rome if rome allowed married priests http://www.anglicancatholic.org/

...an "evangelical branch " that would be considered very liberal http://www.eaca.org/wp/

..And the Charismatic branch that is conservative in its world view and closer to traditional protestant positions on things like communion http://www.theaccc.org/

4 posted on 03/03/2015 4:35:22 PM PST by RnMomof7
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“Turn away from the Catholic Church, and to whom will you go? It is your only chance of peace and assurance in this turbulent, changing world.”

There’s a lot to debate in this article, but I can’t begin to say how strongly I disagree with that statement by Newman. Any born again, bible-believing Christian should know it’s a lie. Maybe the Catholic needs Rome because they don’t have inner peace and real assurance. And how could they? If I believed salvation was based on my decision and my good works I would be terrified of death. If I believe I was headed to Purgatory, that would scare me all the more.

But I don’t believe any of that. Purgatory is a lie. And my salvation was by the grace of God, not some decision this fickle sinner made. My peace and assurance are in Him. He’s the one I turn to for rest, not a church. He says come to ME and I will give you rest. I have assurance because His Word is sure and He keeps His promises. He’s mighty to save and He saves to the uttermost. He’s the alpha and omega, the author and finisher of my faith.

It’s not about a church, it’s not about a pope, it’s all about HIM.

“For of him, and through him, and to him, are all things: to whom be glory for ever. Amen.” Romans 11:36


5 posted on 03/03/2015 4:51:20 PM PST by .45 Long Colt
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BFL.

Thanks, all. The original article together with the comments appears to present a knowledgeable, “spirited” discussion!


16 posted on 03/03/2015 6:20:47 PM PST by frog in a pot (Political Correctness is the assassinÂ’s knife in the heart of free speech.)
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It took me a few attempts, but I think I digested it all. Bookmarked.

Nice post.


18 posted on 03/03/2015 6:33:28 PM PST by ImaGraftedBranch (If you haven't figured it out, there is a great falling away...happening before your eyes.)
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Once they started embracing deviants as leaders, it was over.


24 posted on 03/04/2015 1:59:21 AM PST by AdaGray
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