Posted on 02/25/2015 11:50:17 AM PST by NYer
They are Jesus’ words. Did you know that?
Yeah, I think I've read that before.
Notice no mention of praying to Mary....that was my point.
If the catholic thinks prayers to Mary are so important you would think her Son would have noted the need to pray to her. That He didn't is telling.
That the catholic continues to pray and teach praying to Mary is also telling.
How many times do we have to tell you that Catholics do not pray TO Mary. They ask her to pray for them. So all the pictures, etc. posted are people asking Mary to pray for them.
Sigh...................
LOL
Jesus and His Church can take care of themselves. You've done nothing to me, personally, which requires my forgiveness. However, the trashing that is done on here is frequent and direct. Hardly a day goes by without some one of you eager beavers pointing out the "evil" of the Catholic Church. We simply try to point out what you have gotten wrong... and it is quite a bit.
"There are not a hundred people in America who hate the Catholic Church. There are millions of people who hate what they wrongly believe to be the Catholic Church — which is, of course, quite a different thing."
-- Archbishop Futon Sheen
Just refuted, but what the Lord's Prayer does Contradict is praying to anyone but the Lord, as the Lord instructs "Our Father who art in Heaven," not "Our Mother." The Holy Spirit provides over 200 prayers in Scripture, but not one single one addressed to anyone else in Heaven by the Lord.
That the Lord Jesus can be prayed to is a testimony to His deity.
Only pagans are show making supplications to someone else, that being the only Queen of Heaven in Scripture. (Jer. 44)
Nor is there any other heavenly intercessor but Christ, (1Pt. 2:5) whom the Holy Spirit sends us to as uniquely qualified and able and who alone is said to ever do so. (Heb. 2m4; 7:25)
Nor is any created being shown having the Divine ability to hear virtually infinite amounts of prayer from earth.
Angels and elders offering prayers as a memorial at the last days does not do it, and and attempting to extrapolate PTDS from earthly relations ignores the manifest division God set up btwn the two realms, which requires both to be in the same realm for any two way communication.
That is because Rome uses a faulty hermeneutic. In reality (if they read the text) Jesus was teaching the Law to the Jews. But, Rome simply does not notice that Gentiles were not a part of the so-called Sermon on the Mount. Rome believes Jesus is teaching, "Good Christian Living" in this sermon and love to recite the paternoster...they just don't recite all of it. And, you are correct, the ending is devastating. If you Jews do not forgive, you will not be forgiven.
But, when a good religious Gentile gets hold of this wrongheaded hermeneutic and tries to "obey" the Law of Moses, they find themselves either blind to their failure, or lying to themselves. Either way, this is broken religion. And, Rome loves to inflict broken religion on its sheeple.
Oddly, Rome does not advocate the tearing of eyes out, or the cutting off of one's hands...although Jesus required this, too. Rome does not know how to deal with Matt. 5:48 wherein Jesus demands that the person be "absolutely perfect"...except that a lot of RCs actually seem to speak like they are perfect (there's that blindness, again).
But, the funny thing is that if they were to keep reading, they would notice that Jesus even makes it clear that the so-called "Golden Rule" is simply a summation of the Law and the Prophets...not Christianity.
Of course the Sermon on the Mount is on a collision course with the Reformation...we don't believe that it is the Gospel of grace. It is the Law of Moses. But, Rome loves the Law and must mangle the story line in order to get the paternoster, the golden rule, the bearing of a cross, the forgiveness in order to get forgiven. Not real Christians.
Real believers in Christ recognize the flow of the story line and that we (if we are among the elect Eph. 1) were grafted in at the cross of Jesus, when the blood flowed (Eph. 2). Look at the Gospel after that moment and see what it teaches...it is not Catholicism.
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We think alike. It's scary.
Hail holy Queen, mother of mercy, our life, our sweetness, and our hope. To thee do we cry, poor banished children of Eve. To thee do we send up our sighs, mourning and weeping in this valley of tears. Turn then, most gracious Advocate, thine eyes of mercy toward us. And after this our exile show unto us the blessed Fruit of thy womb, Jesus. O clement, O loving, O sweet Virgin Mary, Pray for us O holy Mother of God that we may be made worthy of the promises of Christ.
And then there's:
Remember, O most gracious Virgin Mary, that never was it known that anyone who fled to thy protection, implored thy help, or sought thy intercession was left unaided. Inspired with this confidence, I fly to thee, O Virgin of virgins, my Mother; to thee do I come; before thee I stand, sinful and sorrowful. O Mother of the Word Incarnate, despise not my petitions, but in thy mercy hear and answer me. Amen.
Just to name my two favorites.
YES we ask Our Lady and the saints to pray for us but at the same time what we're doing is praying TO them. I mean the St. Michael prayer is almost as obvious as the two above, why have you let these Protestants think they've got you in a corner over who we pray to? I don't understand why this keeps coming up.
forgiveness is part of faith
there is no versus there, they are not in opposition
It was the most uncomfortable looking picture I could find!
Do we really have to keep posting the prayers and statements from popes that catholics do pray to mary??
You can live in denial all you want.
Just some of the many prayers offered to Mary by catholics....we can keep playing this game if you want, but catholics do pray to Mary.
My Queen, My Mother, I offer myself entirely to thee. And to show my devotion to thee, I offer thee this day, my eyes, my ears, my mouth, my heart, my whole being without reserve. Wherefore, good Mother, as I am thine own, keep me, guard me as thy property and possession. Amen.
O Mother of God, Immaculate Mary, to thee do I dedicate my body and soul, all my prayers and deeds, my joys and sufferings, all that I am an all that I have. With a joyful heart I surrender myself to thy love. To thee will I devote my services of my own free will for the salvation of mankind, and for the help of the Holy Church whose Mother thou art. From now on my only desire is to do all things with thee, through thee, and for thee. I know I can accomplish nothing by my own strength, whereas thou can do everything that is the will of thy Son, Our Lord Jesus Christ. Thou are always victorious. Grant, therefore, O Helper of the Faithful, that my family, my parish, and my country might become in truth the Kingdom where thou reignest in the glorious presence God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit, forever and ever. Amen.
Hail Mary, hello, how are you? I greet you with love, And I thank you for being available. Deeply, I breathe your roses, The twelve fresh roses you place in my spirit Every morning when I say hello to you.
No, it doesn't deny Christ's plain words. The forgiveness we give others comes from the indwelling of the Holy Spirit not from us. In our natural state we do not forgive. Those who think they are taking credit for themselves will always fall short.
They cry “it’s lent” can’t we all just get along then continued posting. It’s an interesting double speak isn’t it.
Interesting that Jesus said to go directly to the Father in heaven for forgiveness rather then some earthly fake priest isn’t it.
Romans 11:6 And if by grace, then it cannot be based on works; if it were, grace would no longer be grace.
Best to check with scripture before making comments.
When I was a catholic, I prayed to Mary. It has been so many years since I got saved, I just don't remember if the priests told us all we were doing was asking Mary to pray for us, or whatever. Either way, I don't do it anymore. Mary was a wonderful woman, and had a bunch of children with Joseph after Jesus was born, but I will let God deal with her, as he deals with me. 😄😎😇
How many times do we have to show you that your Church says you DO pray TO Mary. How many examples of praying TO Mary for her to perform functions other then to just pray for you do we have to show?
Well said. That old “rightly dividing” gets them every time.
http://www.marypages.com/PrayerstoMary.htm
Mary, Help of Those in Need
Holy Mary, help those in need, give strength to the weak, comfort the sorrowful, pray for God's people, assist the clergy, intercede for religious. Mary all who seek your help experience your unfailing protection. Amen.
Morning Consecration to Mary
My Queen, My Mother, I offer myself entirely to thee. And to show my devotion to thee, I offer thee this day, my eyes, my ears, my mouth, my heart, my whole being without reserve.
Wherefore, good Mother, as I am thine own, keep me, guard me as thy property and possession. Amen.
Prayer to Our Lady of Guadalupe
Dear Mother, we love you. We thank you for your promise to help us in our need. We trust in your love that dries our tears and comforts us. Teach us to find our peace in your Son, Jesus, and bless us every day of our lives.
P: Pray for us O Holy Mother of God
R: That we may be made worthy of the promises of eternal life
Help us to build a shrine in our hearts. Make it as beautiful as the one built for you on the Mount of Tepeyac. A shrine full of trust, hope, and love of Jesus growing stronger each day. Mary, you have chosen to remain with us by giving us your most wonderful and holy self-image on Juan Diego's cloak. May we feel your loving presence as we look upon your face. Like Juan, give us the courage to bring your message of hope to everyone.
You are our Mother and our inspiration. Hear our prayers and answer us. Amen.
The Memorare
Remember, O most gracious Virgin Mary, that never was it known that anyone who fled to your protection, implored your help or sought your intercession, was left unaided. Inspired by this confidence, I fly unto you, O Virgin of virgins, my Mother. To you I come, before you I stand, sinful and sorrowful. O Mother of the Word incarnate, despise not my petitions, but, in your mercy, hear and answer me. Amen.
http://www.stcathek.org/OLPH.htm
Lady of Perpetual Help Novenas
First Novena Prayer ( 1st. and 5th. Saturday)
Behold at thy feet, O Mother of Perpetual Help,| a wretched sinner who has recourse to thee and confides in thee.| O Mother of mercy, have pity on me. I hear thee called by all the refuge and the hope of sinners:| be then, my refuge and my hope.
Assist me, for the love of Jesus Christ;| stretch forth thy hand to a miserable fallen creature who recommends himself to thee, and who devotes himself to thy service for ever.| I bless and thank Almighty God, who in His mercy has given me this confidence in thee,| which I hold to be a pledge of my eternal salvation.|
It is true that in the past I have miserably fallen into sin,| because I had not recourse to thee.| I know that, with thy help, I shall conquer.| I know too, that thou wilt assist me, if I recommend myself to thee;| but I fear dear Mother | that in time of danger, I may neglect to call on thee,| and thus lose my soul.| This grace, then, I ask of thee, and this I beg, with all the fervor of my soul,| that in all the attacks of hell I may ever have recourse to thee.| O Mary, help me.| O Mother of Perpetual Help, never suffer me to lose my God.
3 Ave’s
Hail Mary , full of grace , the Lord is with thee. Blessed art thou amongst women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, JESUS. R: Holy Mary Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death. Amen.
Second Novena Prayer (2nd. and 4th. Saturday) O Mother of Perpetual Help, MBgrant that I may ever invoke thy most powerful name, which is the safeguard of the living and the salvation of the dying. O purest Mary, O sweetest Mary, let thy name henceforth be ever on my lips. Delay not, O Blessed Lady, to help me, whenever I call on thee; for, in all my temptations, in all my needs, I shall never cease to call on thee, ever repeating thy sacred name, Mary, Mary. O what consolation, what sweetness, what confidence, what emotion fills my soul when I utter thy sacred name, or even only think of thee. I thank the Lord for having given thee, for my good, so sweet, so powerful, so lovely a name. But I will not be content with merely uttering thy name. Let my love for thee prompt me ever to hail thee, Mother of Perpetual Help.
3 Ave’s
Third Novena Prayer ( 3rd. Saturday)
O Mother of Perpetual Help, thou art the dispenser of all the gifts which God grants to us miserable sinners; and for this end He has made thee so powerful, so rich, and so bountiful, in order that thou mayest help us in our misery. Thou art the advocate of the most wretched and abandoned sinners who have recourse to thee: come to my aid, dearest Mother, for I recommend myself to thee. In thy hands I place my eternal salvation, and to thee I entrust my soul. Count me among thy most devoted servants; take me under thy protection, and it is enough for me. For, if thou protect me, dear Mother, I fear nothing; not from my sins, because thou wilt obtain for me the pardon of them; nor from the devils, because thou art more powerful than all hell together; nor even from Jesus, my judge, because by one prayer from thee He will be appeased. But one thing I fear: that in the hour of temptation I may through negligence fail to have recourse to thee and thus perish miserably. Obtain for me, therefore, the pardon of my sins, love for Jesus, final perseverance, and the grace to have recourse to thee, O Mother of Perpetual Help. 3 Hail Marys.
http://motherofperpetualhelp.blogspot.com/2007/06/three-novena-prayers.html
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