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To: Zuriel

Baptism is a work. It’s something we do to honor Christ but it will not save anybody by itself nor is it necessary for a confessed believer in Christ to do.

Romans 10:9-10 spells out crystal clear who is saved. Baptism comes AFTER this fact.


51 posted on 02/23/2015 6:12:01 PM PST by Roman_War_Criminal
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

**Baptism is a work. It’s something we do to honor Christ but it will not save anybody by itself nor is it necessary for a confessed believer in Christ to do.**

That’s not what Jesus Christ or his apostles teach. You are just repeating the tradition of men, that hurdle the Lord’s conversion commands.

**Romans 10:9-10 spells out crystal clear who is saved.**

Which was written to people already born again:

Romans 1:7 “To all that be at Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints...”.

They were reminded of their conversion here:

Rms 6:3; “Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?”
4. “Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death:....” (That’s certainly not Spirit baptism, because the Spirit is life.) “..that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the GLORY of the FATHER, even so we also should walk in newness of life.”
5 “For if we have been planted together in the LIKENESS of his death, we shall be also in the LIKENESS of his resurrection.”

17 “But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you.”
18 “Being THEN made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.”

Romans 10:13 is also quoted out of context quite regularly:
“For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved”.

Let’s keep it in context by continuing:

“How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher? And how shall they preach, except they be sent?..” Rms 10:14,15

Now go back to Acts to see how these ‘sent’ preachers preached to the lost, starting with Acts 2:14, and coming to the part where the convicted souls ask, “Men and brethern, what shall we do?”

“Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost”. Acts 2:38

Is that verse from heaven, or of men?

I believe it’s from heaven, and it’s author is to be believed, and that Peter was simply the messenger. And I believe that the author is very serious with those words.


55 posted on 02/23/2015 6:42:23 PM PST by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....Do you believe it?)
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