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How the fictional early papacy became real
Beggars All Martin Luther's Mariology ^ | June 7,2010 | John Bugay

Posted on 02/14/2015 1:16:14 PM PST by RnMomof7

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To: Rashputin
Christ Himself gave the name Chephas (Rock) (Matt 16:17 above) to Simon Bar-Jona

Not true at ALL!

Yeah, once again I gotta post this!



NIV Matthew 4:18-19
 18.  As Jesus was walking beside the Sea of Galilee, he saw two brothers, Simon called Peter and his brother Andrew. They were casting a net into the lake, for they were fishermen.
 19.  "Come, follow me," Jesus said, "and I will make you fishers of men."
 
NIV Matthew 8:14
  When Jesus came into Peter's house, he saw Peter's mother-in-law lying in bed with a fever.
 
NIV Matthew 10:1-2
 1.  He called his twelve disciples to him and gave them authority to drive out evil  spirits and to heal every disease and sickness.
 2.  These are the names of the twelve apostles: first, Simon (who is called Peter) and his brother Andrew; James son of Zebedee, and his brother John;
 
NIV Matthew 14:28-31
 28.  "Lord, if it's you," Peter replied, "tell me to come to you on the water."
 29.  "Come," he said.   Then Peter got down out of the boat, walked on the water and came toward Jesus.
 30.  But when he saw the wind, he was afraid and, beginning to sink, cried out, "Lord, save me!"
 31.  Immediately Jesus reached out his hand and caught him. "You of little faith," he said, "why did you doubt?"
 
NIV Matthew 15:13-16
 13.  He replied, "Every plant that my heavenly Father has not planted will be pulled up by the roots.
 14.  Leave them; they are blind guides.  If a blind man leads a blind man, both will fall into a pit."
 15.  Peter said, "Explain the parable to us."
 16.  "Are you still so dull?" Jesus asked them.
 

As you can see, Simon was already known as 'Peter'
BEFORE the following verses came along.....


NIV Matthew 16:13-18
 13.  When Jesus came to the region of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, "Who do people say the Son of Man is?"
 14.  They replied, "Some say John the Baptist; others say Elijah; and still others, Jeremiah or one of the prophets."
 15.  "But what about you?" he asked. "Who do you say I am?"
 16.  Simon Peter answered, "You are the Christ,  the Son of the living God."
 17.  Jesus replied, "
Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by man, but by my Father in heaven.
 18.  And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades  will not overcome it.
 19.  I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be  bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven."

361 posted on 02/16/2015 6:28:59 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Rashputin
That makes the above verses crystal clear to anyone who is open to the Holy Spirit rather than only to their own Most High and Holy Self.

True!

It is quite clear that ONLY using the 'above verses' will lead a person to draw the WRONG conclusion about the matter.


Why are Catholics so DEVIOUS??

362 posted on 02/16/2015 6:31:20 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: verga
Feel free to have the last word.


363 posted on 02/16/2015 6:32:41 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: miss marmelstein
I’ll use my intuition and say that no one on this thread is Jesus. Get real.

Philippians 2:5
Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:

364 posted on 02/16/2015 6:33:48 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: NYer
So, when your friends, or even strangers, ask you to pray for them, you refuse and tell them to go directly to Jesus.

So, when your friends, or even strangers, ask you to pray for them, do you say "SURE!; but can I filter your request thru a dead 'saint'? It works REALLY well!"

365 posted on 02/16/2015 6:35:20 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: HossB86
Why can't you just address the facts instead of building a straw man to attack?


366 posted on 02/16/2015 6:38:52 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: miss marmelstein
I’m sorry: I just don’t think Elsie is Christ.

Then it is alright if you use my name in vain.

367 posted on 02/16/2015 6:40:32 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
Oh, Elsie...

That was Baa-aaa-aaa-aaa-aaa-aad.

:D

Hoss

368 posted on 02/16/2015 6:41:18 AM PST by HossB86 (Christ, and Him alone.)
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To: Resettozero

That was as close as I could get on such short notice.

Stuff flyin’ outta da mouth, viewed from a safe distance away, could be taken either way.


369 posted on 02/16/2015 6:42:12 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: miss marmelstein
Ok, you think he’s Christ. I’m outta this thread!!!!!!

Many will wish to flee when faced with the Almighty!

370 posted on 02/16/2015 6:44:04 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
Rome has come up with the damnedest things!!

Sadly, the most common thing they damn are souls.

Hoss

371 posted on 02/16/2015 6:44:58 AM PST by HossB86 (Christ, and Him alone.)
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To: Elsie

That Elsie (spit!) is a piker!


Wait to see if the following turns out to be true...

Ok, you think he’s Christ. I’m outta this thread!!!!!!




372 posted on 02/16/2015 6:49:50 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
Ok, you think he’s Christ. I’m outta this thread!!!!!!

Mental hospitals are full of people who claim to be Catholic.
373 posted on 02/16/2015 7:06:41 AM PST by Resettozero
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To: ElkGroveDan; RnMomof7
"I am good friends with many Protestant ministers and pastors who have never felt the need to attack my Faith."

Many of the so-called "pastors" of today are so "Joel-Osteen-like" that they wouldn't know the Gospel if it bit them in the robes. They are smarmy, PC characters who are likely lost themselves. RnMomof7 is reporting this information about the false claims of a papacy expressly to alert you to the error of Rome. It's theology is unbiblical, its traditions deadly, and its men are lost.

"I can do the same with Protestant Preachers who founded their own churches and couldn't keep their pants zipped,"

Certainly you can, but your org claims your "pope" is the "Vicar of Christ", the substitute for Jesus on Earth. You claim he speaks infallibly when he speaks ex cathedra, you believe he is "Father" and appointed by the Holy Spirit. Those are blasphemous claims, proven wrong by their debauched, sick, twisted behavior in the past and their wrongheaded statements about Mary and salvation currently. We are not "taunting" you, but crying out to you to leave her and come into the light of Jesus, alone.

374 posted on 02/16/2015 7:06:52 AM PST by Dutchboy88
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To: Dutchboy88; Elsie
We are not "taunting" you, but crying out to you to leave her and come into the light of Jesus, alone.

Well, I admit some of us are goading them along the way.

(Elsie's bound to have a graphic of a goat being goaded.)

But you are correct regarding motivation.
375 posted on 02/16/2015 7:14:04 AM PST by Resettozero
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To: Resettozero; goat granny
(Elsie's bound to have a graphic of a goat being goaded.)

How about one being teased?

Jack (the black and white one you see the most on these pages) thinks he's the Alpha goat of the herd.

Every day I have to remind him that I am.

He likes to rare up on his hind legs, lower that head, and come at me; trying to keep me from directing him back into the barn.

It never works!

Silly goat!

376 posted on 02/16/2015 7:20:09 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Resettozero; goat granny
... thinks he's the Alpha goat of the herd.

Every day I have to remind him...

Dang!

A vision of these C vs P threads just went thru my mind!

377 posted on 02/16/2015 7:21:50 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
A vision of these C vs P threads just went thru my mind!

In the wash, how are these threads coming out?
378 posted on 02/16/2015 7:23:59 AM PST by Resettozero
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To: metmom; Faith Presses On; Religion Moderator; RnMomof7
I did a keyword search for the keyword *catholicbashing* and found some threads posted that didn’t even reference Catholicism in them.

If it bothers anyone that much there are several solutions:

1) Stop posting threads that bash Catholics.

2) As the RM has stated many times. Simply stick to Caucus threads.

3) Stop doing "keyword" searches.

379 posted on 02/16/2015 7:44:22 AM PST by verga (I might as well be playing Chess with a pigeon.)
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To: verga

Well, expecting Catholics to grow up is certainly not an option, I see.


380 posted on 02/16/2015 8:00:48 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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