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To: editor-surveyor

How about all the Protestants who believe that “Once Saved, Always Saved” scam?


32 posted on 02/13/2015 6:57:42 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring

Just as bad my FRiend.

The Whore and her Daughters are not limited to catholics.

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36 posted on 02/13/2015 7:01:22 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: DuncanWaring

Maybe start a thread about that, instead of trying to derail this one?


49 posted on 02/13/2015 7:54:34 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: DuncanWaring

wow


53 posted on 02/13/2015 8:40:05 PM PST by kvanbrunt2 (civil law: commanding what is right and prohibiting what is wrong Blackstone Commentaries I p44)
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To: DuncanWaring; metmom

Is God Sovereign in Salvation?

OSAS is not a doctrine. It is a straw man.

Here’s a proposition. If you agree/disagree with it please let me know:

“For those whom He [God] foreknew, He also predestined to become conformed to the image of His Son, so that He would be the firstborn among many brethren; and these whom He predestined, He also called; and these whom He called, He also justified; and these whom He justified, He also glorified.”

Yes or no? Do you agree with the above?


63 posted on 02/13/2015 9:56:41 PM PST by redleghunter (He expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning Himself. Lk24)
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To: DuncanWaring
How about all the Protestants who believe that “Once Saved, Always Saved” scam?

Look!!

Over THERE!!



79 posted on 02/14/2015 4:37:19 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: DuncanWaring
I don't believe in "once saved, always saved" but I sure believe in the Perseverance of the Saints. As someone has said, "grace secures us for glory!"

1 Peter 1:3-9 teaches the certainty of the Christian’s destiny in glory.

Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! According to his great mercy, he has caused us to be born again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, to an inheritance that is imperishable, undefiled, and unfading, kept in heaven for you, who by God’s power are being guarded through faith for a salvation ready to be revealed in the last time. In this you rejoice, though now for a little while, if necessary, you have been grieved by various trials, so that the tested genuineness of your faith–more precious than gold that perishes though it is tested by fire–may be found to result in praise and glory and honor at the revelation of Jesus Christ. Though you have not seen him, you love him. Though you do not now see him, you believe in him and rejoice with joy that is inexpressible and filled with glory, obtaining the outcome of your faith, the salvation of your souls.

Now to him who is able to keep you from stumbling and to present you blameless before the presence of his glory with great joy. (Jude 1:24)

And I am sure of this, that he who began a good work in you will bring it to completion at the day of Jesus Christ. (Philippians 1:6)

Michael Horton from Putting the Amazing Back into Grace (pg. 171)

Those who think they can lose their salvation are not trusting in Jesus Christ alone for salvation but partly trusting in their own righteousness. Such teaching would have you believe that the sacrifice of Jesus was insufficient to make his people perfect forever (Heb 10:14) or save them to the uttermost (Heb 7:25) [i.e. that Jesus is not enough]. ... such that, in addition to what Christ did, they must join their own ability to persevere to the end in order to maintain their own just standing before God. The book of Hebrews and Galatians severely warns against this and all teaching that rejects the sufficiency of Christ alone (Heb 6 & 10; Gal 3:3). Such persons think Christ made the down payment on their salvation but that they have to keep up the monthly installments (so to speak). I total misapprehension of the meaning of paid in full.

88 posted on 02/14/2015 6:09:58 AM PST by .45 Long Colt
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