Papacy built on pious fiction and forgery, part 1

Beggars All ^ | May 26, 2010 | John Bugay

[Elsie]

It doesn't take long to watch a Protestant twist words around.

Show...

Us...

WORDS!!!!

[Elsie]

I especially like how opinion is stated in bold, since bold type must make it true.

I just like opinion; period; with NO facts to back it up.

[Elsie]

[Elsie]

Go ask an SSPX member. They will say Vat2 Catholics are out of communion with true Catholicism.

I was walking across a bridge one day, and I saw a man standing on the edge, about to jump off. So I ran over and said, "Stop! Don't do it!"

"Why shouldn't I?" he said.

 

I said, "Well, there's so much to live for!"

He said, "Like what?"

 

I said, "Well...are you religious or atheist?"

He said, "Religious."

 

I said, "Me too! Are you Christian or Buddhist?"

He said, "Christian."

 

I said, "Me too! Are you Catholic or Protestant?"

He said, "Protestant."

 

I said, "Me too! Are you Episcopalian or Baptist?"

He said, "Baptist!"

 

I said,"Wow! Me too! Are you Baptist Church of GOD or Baptist Church of the Lord?"

He said, "Baptist Church of GOD!"

 

I said, "Me too! Are you Original Baptist Church of GOD, or are you Reformed Baptist Church of GOD?"

He said,"Reformed Baptist Church of GOD!"

 

I said, "Me too! Are you Reformed Baptist Church of GOD, reformation of 1879, or Reformed Baptist Church of GOD, reformation of 1915?"

He said, "Reformed Baptist Church of GOD, reformation of 1915!"

 

I said, "Die, heretic scum", and pushed him off.

-- Emo Phillips

[metmom]

Welcome to FR.

[.45 Long Colt]

John Paul II: Mary is the “mother of all who are reborn to life” Evangelium Vitae (1995)

He exalted Mary as MEDIATRIX and CO-REDEMPTRESS. In his general audience of December 13, 1995, he observed that the Vatican II Council applied the title of Mediatix to Mary and spoke of her “mediating role” and “her cooperation in a wholly singular way in the work of restoring supernatural life to souls” and “her exceptional role in the work of redemption” (“Council’s Teaching on Mary Is Rich and Positive,” Dec. 13, 1995, L’Osservatore Romano, English edition).

John Paul II even used the term “worship” to describe devotion to Mary. In his general audience of May 7, 1997, the Pope said that “MARIAN WORSHIP in the ecclesial community ... is based on the will of Christ” and “MARY IS THE PATH THAT LEADS TO CHRIST...” (Vatican Information Service, May 7, 1997). He concluded by urging all Christians to acknowledge Mary’s “providential role in the path of salvation.”

http://www.wayoflife.org/index_files/john_paul_II_marys_in_life_and_death.html

[Old Yeller]

Her goal is to save the souls of us Catholics.

Man cannot save souls. Including their own.

[.45 Long Colt]

I don't believe in "once saved, always saved" but I sure believe in the Perseverance of the Saints. As someone has said, "grace secures us for glory!"

1 Peter 1:3-9 teaches the certainty of the Christian’s destiny in glory.

Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! According to his great mercy, he has caused us to be born again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, to an inheritance that is imperishable, undefiled, and unfading, kept in heaven for you, who by God’s power are being guarded through faith for a salvation ready to be revealed in the last time. In this you rejoice, though now for a little while, if necessary, you have been grieved by various trials, so that the tested genuineness of your faith–more precious than gold that perishes though it is tested by fire–may be found to result in praise and glory and honor at the revelation of Jesus Christ. Though you have not seen him, you love him. Though you do not now see him, you believe in him and rejoice with joy that is inexpressible and filled with glory, obtaining the outcome of your faith, the salvation of your souls.

Now to him who is able to keep you from stumbling and to present you blameless before the presence of his glory with great joy. (Jude 1:24)

And I am sure of this, that he who began a good work in you will bring it to completion at the day of Jesus Christ. (Philippians 1:6)

Michael Horton from Putting the Amazing Back into Grace (pg. 171)

Those who think they can lose their salvation are not trusting in Jesus Christ alone for salvation but partly trusting in their own righteousness. Such teaching would have you believe that the sacrifice of Jesus was insufficient to make his people perfect forever (Heb 10:14) or save them to the uttermost (Heb 7:25) [i.e. that Jesus is not enough]. ... such that, in addition to what Christ did, they must join their own ability to persevere to the end in order to maintain their own just standing before God. The book of Hebrews and Galatians severely warns against this and all teaching that rejects the sufficiency of Christ alone (Heb 6 & 10; Gal 3:3). Such persons think Christ made the down payment on their salvation but that they have to keep up the monthly installments (so to speak). I total misapprehension of the meaning of paid in full.

[DuncanWaring]

I belong to the Roman Catholic “sect” of Roman Catholicism.

The parish I belong to observes the Vatican II form of the Mass.

I’m leaning toward switching to another parish that observes the pre-Vatican II Latin mass.

[Wyrd bið ful aræd]

"I see you had to make do with a graphic of pagans attacking a Catholic."

I used that particular image in reference to the previous comment mentioning the other Indian practice of counting coup.

"We wouldn’t have to stoop to such tactics, since there are plenty of illustrations of Catholics burning Protestants at the stake, back when they could get away with it."

Oh I know. I've learned here on the FRRF that only Catholics burned people.

[RnMomof7]

Then again, I think each comment removed by the RM get “Purgatory points.”

:)

The truth will set you free ...but some people love bondage

[hockeyCEO]

No facts? Do you dispute what I wrote? I welcome your rebuttal to them.

What is the point of dissecting the article further when its opening statements are shown to be so very wrong?

[zot]

Thanks for posting this.

[zot]

Ping

[Elsie]

John Paul II even used the term “worship” to describe devotion to Mary.

So??

Do you not realize every ONE of his comments ever uttered can be dismissed by today's Catholics!

Unless his words were filtered through the Magisterium do they count.

Try again; HATER!

[Elsie]

I’m leaning toward switching to another parish that observes the pre-Vatican II Latin mass.

But WHY?

What does IT offer for your soul's salvation that the VII doesn't?

[Elsie]

No facts? Do you dispute what I wrote?

Do YOU document what you claim?

This article continues on with more heresy.

[Elsie]

Happy Valentine's Day you guys!!

 

 

 

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[RnMomof7]

:)

[x_plus_one]

The Orthodox Church is on a firm foundation. If you eliminate the Roman Church, Catholics will just go to Orthodox parishes. Playing sola scriptura on the Vatican does nothing but move chess pieces around the board.