Posted on 01/31/2015 8:43:45 PM PST by Morgana
My new book, The Protestant's Dilemma, shows in a myriad of ways why Protestantism is implausible. We sifted through many arguments to boil the book down to the most essential. A few chapters didn't make the cut but are still good enough to share. Here's one of them.
If Protestantism is true,
There's no way to know whether you're assenting to divine revelation or to mere human opinion about divine revelation.
Protestants and Catholics both believe that God has revealed himself to man over the course of human history, culminating in his ultimate self-revelation in Jesus Christ. But whereas Catholics believe that Christ founded a visible Churchwhich subsists in the Catholic Churchand has protected its doctrines from error, Protestants reject the notion of ecclesial infallibility, maintaining that no person, church, or denomination has been preserved from error in its teachings. Which means that anyone could be wrong, and no person or institution can be trusted with speaking the truth of divine revelation without error.
Universal Fallibility
No one is infallible. If Protestantism has a universal belief, this is it. Luther pioneered this idea when he asserted that popes and Church councils had erred. If they had erred, it meant God had not guided them into all truth; instead, he allowed them to fall into error and, worse, to proclaim error as truth.
And so the most a Protestant can do is tentatively assent to doctrinal statements made by his church, pastor, or denomination, since those statements, being fallible, could be substantively changed at some time in the future. We see this all the time in Protestantism, most commonly when a Protestant leaves one church for another due to doctrinal disagreement, especially after his church changed its position on an issue he considered important.
Consider the question of same-sex marriage. Until quite recently, all Protestant denominations taught this was a contradiction in terms. But now many have modified or even completely reversed this doctrine. Those Protestants who accept this new teaching believe that the old one was wrongan erroneous human opinion that became enshrined in their churchs statement of faith. They can do this confidently, knowing that none of their fellow church members can plausibly claim that it contradicts an irreformable dogma that was infallibly revealed by God.
Ultimately, then, a Protestant (who remains Protestant) studies the relevant sourcesScripture, history, the writings of authoritative figures in his traditionand chooses the Protestant denomination that most aligns with his judgment. But then, they say, Catholics do the same thing: studying the sources and then choosing the Catholic Church based on their own judgment. So they see no difference in this regard.
Because Catholicism is true,
Christians can know divine revelation, as distinct from mere human opinion, because God protects it from authoritatively teaching anything that is false.
How is the Catholics judgment different from a Protestant's, if at all? The difference lies in the conclusion, or finishing point, of the inquiry they make. Whereas the Protestant can ultimately submit only to his own judgment, which he knows to be fallible, the Catholic can confidently render total assent to the proclamations of the visible Church that Christ established and guides, submitting his judgments to its judgments as to Christ's.
And so a Catholic can know divine revelation, as distinct from human opinion, by looking to the Church, which speaks with Christs voice and cannot lie. For a Protestant, only the Bible itself contains Gods infallibly inspired words, so he desires to assent to that. But since the Bible must be interpreted by someone, the closest he can come to assenting to biblical teaching is assenting to his own fallible interpretation of it. And assenting to yourself is no assent at all.
The Protestants Dilemma
If Protestantism is true, all are fallible. So the Protestant must rely on his own judgment above that of his church. And the orthodoxy of the church itself is judged against his interpretation of the Bible. Thus is becomes impossible to distinguish between what divine revelation actually is versus what a fallible human being thinks it is. This fact makes the Catholic Church, philosophically speaking, preferable to Protestantism, since Gods truth can be knownand known with certainty.
10 Bible Verses about Jesus Christ, Sinlessness
Excellent avoidance!
I wonder if GOD ‘chose’ all the EVIL MEN to lead the church of Rome for a reason???
You were the next one after it.
I should have wiped your name.
Sorry.
(Maybe V will enlighten us both in a little while...)
My Prayer to Our Mother Mary
Hail and praise be unto thee, Mary, whom God Almighty has exalted above all of his other servants!!
God has entrusted us unto your care and graciously grants any request that you make of Him on our behalf, if it is in accordance with His Divine Will.
Our hearts burn with zeal as we honor you, Our Mother.
We love you as a child loves a mother and you love us as mother loves her children.
Please guide us, your little ones, to our Eternal and Almighty Father God through our prayers and through your love for us.
Many in this world may slander and degrade you while still claiming to exalt God, please forgive them and pray for them for they may dishearten your devoted children.
May we be made worthy of the promises of Christ through your prayers. You love us so freely and we are so unworthy of it.
You love us because God and Christ loved us first.
Mary, Mother, I love you.
Amen.
Excellent post. Is that the trampling of a thousand feet I hear, rushing to cooperate with these wise admonitions? No, sorry, it's just the wind. However, you tried, and for that, I commend you.
{Turn on droning voice...}
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOmKfhWLxeg
Sorry; but you've failed to notice what it WAS replied to...
191 posted on 2/2/2015 6:35:28 AM by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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YUP!
Speaking of such; re-post your 218 to me again.
I wasn't quick enough to read it the first time around.
Ain't specklatin' FUN!
It allows us to come up with all KINDs of scenarios!
(Who am I to limit what GOD can do?)
The citation? I am responding to the thread article! Do you see To 1 at the bottom?
If FR was going to be sued it would be mostly due to RCs who post whole articles or portions without any attribution, even as if it was their own polemic
You may be onto something.
Which, in the light of what you are responding to, and more , examples how Rome can contradict itself.
I’m a Methodist. I haven’t read through this. It does strike me that the title is designed to polarize. Do you agree with that?
No. No where in scripture does it say Mary is full of grace. It only says that about Jesus and Stephen. That "full of grace" stuff is a made up lie from the Catholic Church.
Thanks for reading and thank God for grace and truth.
What previous name have you gone by on this forum?
I've been meaning to ask this for some time now...for in dribs and drabs have been leaking out small hints that participation on this forum likely did not begin Dec. 14, 2014.
The date on my homepage is when I joined. I was not previously a member, but I have looked around the instructional portions of the site. In fact, isn’t your erroneous assumption that I have been here before under another name “making it personal?”
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