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To: omegatoo
Jesus saved Mary before she was born and before He was born.

Neat trick; with ZERO proof.

It takes FAITH to be saved, and one must FIRST be born!


1 Corinthians 15:14
And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain.

Second; Christ must be RISEN for us to even HAVE any faith!

1,202 posted on 01/27/2015 6:44:58 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

Saint Paul says that Abraham was justified because he believed God. I.e., Abraham had faith, and was saved.

Abraham lived BEFORE JESUS, and Abraham had FAITH, BEFORE JESUS.

So, in your book, Saint Paul was a heretic, and his letters contain heresy.


1,214 posted on 01/27/2015 6:58:59 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: Elsie

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>> “Second; Christ must be RISEN for us to even HAVE any faith!” <<

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Then how did Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and his descent get their faith?

Try again!

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1,242 posted on 01/27/2015 8:55:35 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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