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Pope Francis Shocks Liberals on Same-Sex “Marriage”
Crisis Magazine ^ | January 23, 2015 | PAUL KENGOR

Posted on 01/23/2015 2:45:00 PM PST by NYer

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To: vladimir998

I never said his comments referred to support of same-sex “marriage”. The only thing the liberals picked up on were “who am I to judge”. They could have cared less what he was trying to say. And after the mass confusion he never clarified anything about Church doctrine on homosexuality. Then the debacle of the Synod of the Family, where Francis personally let stay in the final document words about homosexuals that was barely mentioned in the Synod and did not get enough votes to go in the final report. No Catholic can figure him out. It’s always typical Jesuit social justice talk coming from him and not much of anything else.


21 posted on 01/23/2015 3:51:36 PM PST by NKP_Vet
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To: NYer
Liberals discover that Pope Francis really wasn’t talking about anything more general than his work relationship with the curia when he said that. Hilarity ensues. Well, for us, anyway. For the liberals, not so much.
22 posted on 01/23/2015 3:52:54 PM PST by RichInOC ("Alles, was man ueber Abtreibung wissen muss, steht im 5. Gebot."--Schoenborn)
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To: NYer

I thought the pope was supposed to be God’s representative on earth ... I would think His views on immorality are constant and don’t evolve just because collections and attendance are down.


23 posted on 01/23/2015 3:59:53 PM PST by ChiefJayStrongbow
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To: vladimir998
"People need to learn to read!"

And to read the appropriate sources. The article pointed out distinct examples of the MSM distorting his words. EWTN and the Vatican website have full quotes and footage from which people may draw their own conclusions.

24 posted on 01/23/2015 4:27:36 PM PST by Grateful2God (And Mary kept all these things, and pondered them in her heart.)
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To: NYer

*8Reporter Ben Smith at The Daily Signal wrote that “the pope reaffirmed his commitment to traditional marriage, speaking to the crowd about his concern for the ‘ideological colonization of the family,’ which many took as a swipe at gay marriage. The Vatican later confirmed that marriage was on the pope’s mind.” **

Marriage between one man and one woman until death parts them.


25 posted on 01/23/2015 5:53:37 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: vladimir998

“Never happened.”

Denial


26 posted on 01/23/2015 9:27:35 PM PST by Slambat
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To: NYer

“Edged closer” why can’t he just say it and be done with it?


27 posted on 01/23/2015 9:42:07 PM PST by kalee
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To: vladimir998
Whoa! Idiots keep taking his comments out of context. His “Who am I to judge” never suggested that he supported gay marriage or anything else about the gay agenda. PERIOD! People need to learn to read!

Good advice, but wasted on many in the target audience. Way too many hear what they want to hear and read what they want to read in order to be able to maintain their pose of self-righteous outrage...many of them call it "sticking to their principles".

28 posted on 01/24/2015 3:54:10 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Alex Murphy
How do we know he's not being mistranslated?

The Semi-Official Catholic Internet Magisterium (SOCIM) will tell you.

29 posted on 01/24/2015 4:13:09 AM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: Slambat

“Denial”

You can always try to prove me wrong. You’ll fail. But you can try.


30 posted on 01/24/2015 6:59:05 AM PST by vladimir998
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To: daniel1212; Alex Murphy
The Semi-Official Catholic Internet Magisterium (SOCIM) will tell you.

Which one? The fallible one or the infallible one?

31 posted on 01/24/2015 7:12:02 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: vladimir998

“You can always try to prove me wrong. You’ll fail. But you can try.”

I’m tired of doing it. If you would have been paying attention
lately you would know. If you were listing to Rush you would know.
If have been visiting FreeRepublic in the past year you would
know.
If you don’t know this, Sorry, your sorely uninformed.


32 posted on 01/24/2015 8:02:41 PM PST by Slambat
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To: Slambat

“I’m tired of doing it.”

You’ve never done it.

“If you would have been paying attention
lately you would know.”

I pay attention and you’ve never done it.

“If you were listing to Rush you would know.”

I’m a Rush 24/7 member and listen every day.

“If have been visiting FreeRepublic in the past year you would know.”

I’m here every day.

“If you don’t know this, Sorry, your sorely uninformed.”

Clearly you’re the one who is misinformed.


33 posted on 01/25/2015 5:37:07 AM PST by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998

I think it would be better for you to
live in your own self imposed ignorant
bliss. If what you say is true then you
are surely in total denial and there’s no
hope for you anyway. Good day.


34 posted on 01/25/2015 10:13:10 AM PST by Slambat
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To: Slambat

“I think it would be better for you to live in your own self imposed ignorant bliss.”

I am very well informed. By your own standards I am. But you apparently can’t deal with that.

“If what you say is true then you are surely in total denial and there’s no hope for you anyway.”

Incredible. First, you said I had to fulfill certain pet requirements of yours to be judged as properly informed according to your standard. I, in fact, fulfill those requirements in spades. I, in fact, probably am better informed about things on the world stage then you ever will be. Yet, now you insist I “live in [my] own self imposed ignorant bliss”. And why? Apparently because your requirement list so massively backfired. Welcome to the real world. There are always people out there better informed than you. Don’t forget that.


35 posted on 01/25/2015 11:18:54 AM PST by vladimir998
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