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1 posted on 01/22/2015 5:05:08 AM PST by Gamecock
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Every time I say this I get howled down, but I am going to say it again: Worship is not the place for evangelism, but the goal.


2 posted on 01/22/2015 5:06:22 AM PST by Gamecock (Joel Osteen is a preacher of the Gospel like Colonel Sanders is an Army officer.)
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“and I began to feel the very presence of God. It was like nothing I ever felt before. Tears streamed down my eyes and right then, I bowed down and made a decision to surrender my life to Jesus. “

Since this was the result; it sounds like things were done pretty well.


3 posted on 01/22/2015 5:14:42 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland (Pants up; don't loot)
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Far be it from me, a human to tell God what he can and can’t do with his worship.


5 posted on 01/22/2015 5:19:25 AM PST by taxcontrol
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ping for later


6 posted on 01/22/2015 5:23:44 AM PST by Lee N. Field ("And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to promise" Gal 3:29)
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The author left one significant thing out...

We worship together because we are His...In Christ...the Body.

The church never was called to bring the unsaved into the church...church was meant for believers. We were called to go out among them.

Just as Jesus took his diciples aside with Him and further explained and elaborated to them what His teachings meant. So to was the church.

Today we invite anybody in and among...rapidly baptize them and then wonder why the problems and the world has become so much a part of the church.....further that the unsaved are taking over.


7 posted on 01/22/2015 5:25:19 AM PST by caww
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People worshipped God for 1500 years before our "traditional" hymns came into existence--only about 300-400 years ago.

Music style is not something to get upset over. God doesn't care about style as much as He cares about heart and content.

10 posted on 01/22/2015 5:41:00 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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Sometimes it does.

What I do know is that preaching in a dead language as many of my fellow Catholics want to go back to doing has virtually ZERO chance of reaching anyone under 30.


14 posted on 01/22/2015 6:12:28 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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Worship music changes. The contemporary hymns you hear today in church are the future of worship music.

The next Great Awakening will be driven by contemporary music styles, not the hymns of the 1880’s.


19 posted on 01/22/2015 7:17:04 AM PST by buffaloguy
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Most sermons today focus soley on God's love and not enough on the fear of God. The following men of God did it better than most of those alive today. SermonIndex on Youtube has some great sermons from these men that will change your life.

Leonard Ravenhill

Smith Wigglesworth

David Wilkerson

Dr. J. Edwin Orr

Link Here

20 posted on 01/22/2015 7:27:53 AM PST by HOYA97 (twitter @hoya97)
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How timely. This bubbled to the top of something I was reading: The Freedom of the Regulative Principle, by Kevin DeYoung.

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But the heart of the regulative principle is not about restriction. It is about freedom.

1. Freedom from cultural captivity. When corporate worship is largely left to our own designs we quickly find ourselves scrambling to keep up with the latest trends. The most important qualities become creativity, relevance, and newness. But of course, over time (not much time these days), what was fresh grows stale. We have to retool in order to capture the next demographic. Or learn to be content with settling in as a Boomer church or Gen X church.

2. Freedom from constant battles over preferences....

3. Freedom of conscience. ...

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32 posted on 01/22/2015 4:16:00 PM PST by Lee N. Field ("And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to promise" Gal 3:29)
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