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To: xone

Well I don’t know about Pius, but if there is antiSemitism it is wrong. That said, I don’t cotton to the idea that every person who was appointed to Peter’s Chair was perfect or has to be regarded as having been perfect. Is everyone of your pastors or bishops or whatever you have perfect? Peter’s Chair is perfect. The broken humans chosen for it have big shoes to fill. Even Peter wasn’t perfect. Old David sure wasn’t perfect. Imperfect Popes paid for it I am sure when they were finally judged. That said there have been some great ones.


70 posted on 01/15/2015 5:29:23 AM PST by yldstrk
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To: yldstrk
Old David sure wasn’t perfect.

Article doesn't call David 'perfect', just great. He is called 'a man after God's heart'. Since his works obviously weren't perfect, how could this be?

As for Luther, no one calls him perfect. You called him an anti-semite which he was, that qualified him as 'evil person'. Yet the same sin acted upon as the Popes did doesn't qualify as evil with you, just 'imperfect'.

71 posted on 01/15/2015 5:48:52 AM PST by xone
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To: yldstrk; xone
Well I don’t know about Pius, but if there is antiSemitism it is wrong. That said, I don’t cotton to the idea that every person who was appointed to Peter’s Chair was perfect or has to be regarded as having been perfect. Is everyone of your pastors or bishops or whatever you have perfect? Peter’s Chair is perfect. The broken humans chosen for it have big shoes to fill. Even Peter wasn’t perfect. Old David sure wasn’t perfect. Imperfect Popes paid for it I am sure when they were finally judged. That said there have been some great ones.

Then why the focus on every alleged little misstatement or possible error from Luther.

RC's demand perfection out of him and castigate him for stuff that they can't even prove, and yet when it's popes or priests.....

This is the kind of answer we get?

They hold Luther to standards that probably Jesus couldn't meet, and RC's blowing off heinous sin with *hey we're all just sinners, and nobody is perfect*.

Could any Catholic demonstrate some integrity and apply the same standard to ALL men instead of giving themselves a pass and condemning everyone not them?

Luther's track record pales in comparison to so many of your popes and priests.

Catholics need to quit being such hypocrites

72 posted on 01/15/2015 12:12:32 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: yldstrk
Imperfect Popes paid for it I am sure when they were finally judged.

WERE???


It ain't happened YET!!!


Exodus 32:32-33
 But now, if you will forgive their sin—but if not, please blot me out of your book that you have written.”  But the Lord said to Moses, “Whoever has sinned against me, I will blot out of my book.
 

Daniel 12:1
 “At that time shall arise Michael, the great prince who has charge of your people. And there shall be a time of trouble, such as never has been since there was a nation till that time. But at that time your people shall be delivered, everyone whose name shall be found written in the book.
 
 
 
Philippians 4:3
 And I intreat thee also, true yokefellow, help those women which laboured with me in the gospel, with Clement also, and with other my fellowlabourers, whose names are in the book of life.
 

Revelation 3:5
He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.
 

Revelation 13:8
And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
 
 
 
Revelation 17:8
 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.
 
 
 
Revelation 20:11-15
"Then I saw a great White Throne and him who was seated on it. Earth and sky fled from his presence, and there was no place for them. And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and THE BOOKS WERE OPENED. Another book was opened WHICH IS THE BOOK OF LIFE. The dead were judged according to their works as recorded in the books. The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to their works.  Then death and Hades were thrown into the Lake of Fire. The Lake of Fire is the second death. If anyone's name was not found written IN THE BOOK OF LIFE, he was thrown into the lake of fire."
 
Revelation 21:27
Nothing impure will ever enter it, nor will anyone who does what is shameful or deceitful, but only those whose names are written in the Lamb’s book of life.

77 posted on 01/16/2015 4:41:09 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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