[caww]

That box reminds me of how many things within catholicism IS boxed, signed, sealed and delivered. I mean no offense but that is not anything I would have responded to were I not a Christian....Calling this a “formula” with “essential elements” makes it sound like a scientific experiment....and if it's something a Priest says to an individual it sounds like hocus pocus. IMO it isn't the least bit inviting and a far cry from the simplicity of the Gospel message.

Furthermore it goes on that God only "effects" reconciliation.....there's a lot missing from this equation as it stumbles to retain it's legalistic approach.

[defconw]

I have to wonder why you care what we do? What you people fail to realize is that adult Catholics don't need to take a freaking check list in with us. These things are part of our essence. They publish these things for new people and teachers and the like.

You continue to try to argue us out of positions that we have held all our lives.

There are people in our church who do not do what they are supposed to do. There are people who have no clue what they are talking about. There are people in our Church who are trying to undermine the Church. The Church is under attack both from within and without. So what?

To be Catholic you take the good with the bad and you don't cut and run if the priest doesn't phrase something properly or doesn't publicly rebuke a politician that is trying to play both sides of the fence.

There is a God you know! HE DOES THE SORTING!