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To: CynicalBear
Jesus spoke of His, and our Father. That Father was the God of Abraham, embraced by Jews, Christians, and yes, Muslims. Unless your personal interpretation of the Bible rejects the idea of the entire Old Testament, when Jesus refers to the Father, He is referring to the God of Abraham.

BTW: Muslims embrace the teachings of Mohammed. Jews and Christians do not.

26 posted on 01/05/2015 7:37:46 AM PST by Grateful2God (And Mary kept all these things, and pondered them in her heart.)
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To: Grateful2God

If you can’t recognize the difference between the god the Muslims serve and the God of scripture I pity you. If on the other hand you are somehow attempting to comply with Catholic teaching without thought I would suggest some serious reflection.


34 posted on 01/05/2015 8:07:28 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: Grateful2God; CynicalBear
YOUR pope kissing the koran. Fits right in with YOUR Catechism of the Catholic church.

From the Catechism of the Catholic church.

http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/__P29.HTM

841 The Church's relationship with the Muslims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day."330


53 posted on 01/05/2015 12:04:06 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Grateful2God; CynicalBear; defconw; boatbums; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; caww; ...
YOUR pope kissing the koran. Fits right in with YOUR Catechism of the Catholic church.

From the Catechism of the Catholic church.

http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/__P29.HTM

841 The Church's relationship with the Muslims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day."330

So let's apply the group think concept so that we know exactly where Catholics are coming from.

This is from the official teachings of the Catholic church, which must be adhered to by faithful Catholics. There is no option about disagreeing with the CCC.

So applying group think concept, we now know where you're coming from.

Why to you believe that muslims worship the same God as the Catholics and they'll be in first place in the plan of salvation?

54 posted on 01/05/2015 12:07:16 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Grateful2God; CynicalBear
Jesus spoke of His, and our Father. That Father was the God of Abraham, embraced by Jews, Christians, and yes, Muslims. Unless your personal interpretation of the Bible rejects the idea of the entire Old Testament, when Jesus refers to the Father, He is referring to the God of Abraham.

Jews and Muslims have a different god.. They do not have a trinune God that saves..they do not have a God that came to the earth to save them from their sins.they do not have a God of Grace and mercy that saved them from their sins.

They have a god of works, which is why Romanists think they have the same god.. because Catholicism is also a works based religion

73 posted on 01/05/2015 1:40:46 PM PST by RnMomof7 (Ga 4:16)
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To: Grateful2God
Jesus spoke of His, and our Father. That Father was the God of Abraham, embraced by Jews, Christians, and yes, Muslims. Unless your personal interpretation of the Bible rejects the idea of the entire Old Testament, when Jesus refers to the Father, He is referring to the God of Abraham.

The scripture is quite clear that if you do not believe in the Son, you don't worship the Father either.

1Jn_2:23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.

Just because non-Christian Jews and Muslims "believe" in a god doesn't mean they believe in God. They are necessarily damned, therefore, until they become Christians.

128 posted on 01/05/2015 4:47:47 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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