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Without Our Traditions, Our Life would be as Shaky as a Fiddler on the Roof!
Archdiocese of Washington ^ | 01-01-15 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 01/02/2015 7:18:28 AM PST by Salvation

Without Our Traditions, Our Life would be as Shaky as a Fiddler on the Roof!

By: Msgr. Charles Pope

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When I was a young man, a teenager really, I did the usual crazy stuff of the early ’70s: long hair, bell bottoms, wide ties, crazy plaids, shirt open at least least three buttons, and, of course, rock-n-roll.

But through it all I had this love for older things. I think it had something to do with my grandmother, Nana, whom I loved with great affection. Often she lamented the loss of the old things and old ways. She missed the Latin Mass; she missed when manners were better, when people remembered how to dress well, when things were more certain, when (as Archie and Edith sang at the beginning of All in the Family) “girls were girls and men were men.” She also missed when things were built sturdily and plastic was all but unknown.

Somehow her love for older things and older ways took hold in me, even as I indulged in the trappings of the silly seventies. My parents’ generation (born in the late ’20s and ’30s) and even more so those born after the War, was something of an iconoclastic generation: “Out with the old and in with the new … new and improved.”

I remember my mother often wanting to get rid of some old thing. I often volunteered to remove it and would then hide it in the attic instead. Old silver, Tiffany lamps, statues, and trunks began to fill our attic. In addition, I loved old buildings and hated the glass boxes that were being built in the ’70s. I remembered the old churches of my childhood in Chicago that “looked like churches” and lamented the “ugly modern church” of my ’70s suburb. And even though I liked rock music, I couldn’t stand the “hippie music” of the ’60s that predominated in the ’70s parishes: “Kumbaya,” “Sons of God”. Such dreadful lyrics, all on stapled, mimeographed papers: “… Gather around the table of the Lord, Eat his Body! Drink his blood! and we’ll sing a song of love, Allelu, Allelu, Allelu, Allelu-i-a!”

My grandmother often said how much she missed the beautiful old songs, the incense, the veils, the priests in cassocks, and so many other things. She somehow had my ear. I was sympathetic, hiding antiques cast aside from both my parents’ home and from the church, too. I looked for the day when sanity would return and such cast-offs were once again valued.

And that day has largely come. Much of the iconoclasm of the ’50s through the mid ’80s has given way and many older things are once again appreciated. As I took some things out of the attic in the early ’90s, my mother, strangely, appreciated them again. Other family members took some of the silver, etc. My Chalice was actually an old cast-off I had restored. Statues began to return to church, some of the old hymns have returned, and the Latin Mass, once relegated to the cellar, has been dusted off and is now appreciated again by many, mostly younger Catholics. I have also had the good fortune of helping to restore two old Churches to their former glory and to undo some of the iconoclasm from which they suffered. I even wear my cassock quite often.

For the record, I do not mind some of the more modern churches, some of them have a handsome simplicity. But nothing irks me more than to see a beautiful older Church “renovated” to look like 1985, all whitewashed and stripped bare. Thankfully, I think that terrible era is largely ending.

But we have been through a time of it in the Church to be sure. Perhaps some things had to go “into the attic” for a time in order that they could be taken down again and appreciated anew. But whatever the reasons for the iconoclasm, especially of the 1960s, I sense we are now recovering a balance, a balance that does not reject the new but still appreciates the old, a balance that nods to a hermeneutic of continuity (of which the Pope speaks) rather than a rupture and radical discontinuity with the past, a balance of which Jesus says, Therefore every scribe who has become a disciple of the kingdom of heaven is like a head of a household, who brings out of his treasure things new and old (Matt 13:52).

Many look back and wonder at the great rupture and cultural tsunami we have endured in the West. We wonder how and why. There are, of course, countless reasons, but I would like to single out just one: forgetfulness.

Traditions are established and endure for a reason. Fundamentally, they simplify life by giving structure, boundaries, and expectations. People know more easily how to navigate in the realm of tradition. But one sign that a tradition is in danger is when people come to forget its purpose, when people forget where it came from or why it is observed, when people forget what it means or symbolizes.

I wonder … if I were to get into a time machine and go back to 1940 in this parish and ask people some questions: Why do women wear hats and veils while men do not cover their heads? Why do we kneel to receive Communion? Why is the Mass in Latin? Why does the priest face toward the altar? Why are all these things done this way? I suspect I would get answers like “I dunno, we just do it that way. Why don’t you ask the priest?”

In other words, I wonder if the first stage of losing a tradition is when it no longer makes conscious sense to people? That is, when when it is no longer clear to them why we do what we do. When all they can say about it is “That’s just what we do.”

At some point when we are dealing with traditions, we run the risk that they become wooden and rote, and we start sifting through the ashes of an old fire that has largely gone out. Unless we fan into flames the gifts of God’s love (cf 2 Tim 1:6), our love and appreciation of these things grows cold and their beauty tarnishes. And then when someone asks, “What’s this thing?” and we reply, “What, that old thing?” And thus the suggestion to “get rid of it” receives a cursory nod and the response, “Sure, that’s fine; get rid of it.”

But the process begins with forgetfulness. And forgetfulness leads to a lack of understanding, which then gives way to a lack of appreciation. All this culminates in an almost gleeful dismissal of the old things and the now-tarnished traditions that once sustained and framed our lives.

To be sure, some things need to fall away. Perhaps there is a time and place to “lose” things for a while, only to rediscover them later. But what we have experienced in the last 60 years has been more than this sort of natural process. It has been a rupture, a radical discontinuity that has shaken many of our foundations, Church and family especially.

Therefore we do well to “remember” many of our traditions. The word “remember” suggests a process of putting the pieces back together again, a process of collecting some precious things that have been severed from the body and making them once again “members” of the Body, the Church, and of our families. Remembering many of our lost traditions, even as we establish some new ones, is an important way of ensuring continuity with our past heritage and members.

Tradition is the “democracy of the dead” wherein our ancestors get a say in what we do. Tradition is a way to “remember” the Church, to honor the ways and practices of the ancients that my grandmother recalled with fondness and a sense of loss. And it was a loss, but a loss I pray we are beginning to remedy, as we remember the best of the past and recover our traditions.

I thought of all of this as I watched this video from Fiddler on the Roof. This was written at a time when the sweeping changes of the last 60 years were already underway. And this song “Tradition!” while it tips a hat to tradition, ultimately ridicules it by implying that tradition is the kind of thing that essentially keeps men in charge, women down, and forces children into arranged and unhappy marriages.

At a key moment in the song, Tevye is describing the tradition of the prayer shawls and says, “You may ask, ‘How did this tradition get started?’ I’ll tell you.” And then after a pause he says, “I don’t know, but it’s a tradition!” The first sign that a tradition is in trouble is forgetfulness.

But the musical (written in 1964) pretty well captures the iconoclastic attitudes emerging at the time that were cynical of tradition in a general sort of way. Despite that cynicism, Tevye rightly notes what we have come to discover only too well:

“Without our traditions our lives would be as shaky as a Fiddler on the Roof.”



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1 posted on 01/02/2015 7:18:28 AM PST by Salvation
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To: Salvation

I miss the profusion of prayers, novenas, Benediction, etc.

I am fortunate, though, that my priest permits the Rosary before Mass, Benediction before Mass on Wednesday evening and The Chaplet of Divine Mercy from Good Friday through Mercy Sunday.

But there are still others — I and a friend wrote a Scriptural Rosary (twenty decades) that we did at our parish on four separate Sunday evenings during the Year of the Priest.

The first five mysteries in each decade were directly from that mystery, and then we searched concordances to find a similar mystery that applied to the priesthood. It was a big undertaking, but our priest loved the final booklet.


2 posted on 01/02/2015 7:24:47 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: nickcarraway; NYer; ELS; Pyro7480; livius; ArrogantBustard; Catholicguy; RobbyS; marshmallow; ...

Monsignor Pope Ping!


3 posted on 01/02/2015 7:30:34 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation
That's neat that you did that. What an undertaking.

I know I have been taken to task on this forum from time to time for not being enthusiastic about certain aspects of the past in the Church. But I am glad Monsignor Pope wrote this. I can't really mourn for a past I have never known. I was born in 1963. The Church, this country and our culture has been in a constant state of chaos my entire life. So unfortunately it's normal to me.

That said, I do love a parish that says the Rosary before Mass and has adoration, and Benediction and the Divine Mercy Chaplets and sings the old songs, and burns the incense and rings the bells. Sadly it does not happen every where. Things are changing. I see it. The young priests are seeking the old ways and I like that.

4 posted on 01/02/2015 7:36:08 AM PST by defconw (If not now, WHEN?)
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It's kind of ironic that a Catholic columnist is invoking Jewish Tradition to defend and bolster Catholic tradition . . . considering that the Catholic and Orthodox churches spent almost two thousand years trying to destroy that tradition (and in the process, inventing all the arguments Protestants would use against Catholic and Orthodox traditions!).
5 posted on 01/02/2015 7:44:59 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Throne and Altar! [In Jerusalem!!!])
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To: Salvation

It would be less shaky if I were a rich man...


6 posted on 01/02/2015 7:45:20 AM PST by Old Sarge (Its the Sixties all over again, but with crappy music...)
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To: Salvation

Three periods of iconoclasm - back in the 300s? Vatican counsel and just before and after which is what Msgr Pope is talking about but also the Reformation. Our parish is what I guess I would call moderately high church. On any given day whether the school is in session or not the parking lot is at least half full. On Sundays and Holy Days, there is standing room only. The bulletin reports money in and out every week and we’re always in the black. But I know that this is as fragile as the 86 year old pastor emeritus. And I’m pretty sure that there are people in the archdiocese who want to transfer our Pastor elsewhere. So far he’s hung on but has been there longer than most pastors are allowed to stay in one place.


7 posted on 01/02/2015 7:46:08 AM PST by Mercat
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To: Salvation

Our Lady of the Angels, the the cathedral that serves as the headquarters of the Catholic diocese in Los Angeles, is one of the city’s ugliest buildings. However, although the beautiful Our Savior Parish church, which mostly serves the University of Southern California’s Catholic community, is only a couple years old, it is built in an Italian Romanesque Revival style and looks like something from the nineteenth century.


8 posted on 01/02/2015 7:49:18 AM PST by Fiji Hill (Io Triumphe!)
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To: Fiji Hill

That fills me with hope. Thanks for sharing. I do think we are going to get rid of the ugly sterile churches in the coming years. YEAH!


9 posted on 01/02/2015 7:53:23 AM PST by defconw (If not now, WHEN?)
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To: Mercat
True story. My sister married a guy from NE Indiana. I had at the time never been there. So, any way we roll up to the church and go in. Puzzled as I grew up in NE Ohio where we still had all the old fashioned churches, cathedral style. I walked back out and looked at the sign again. Sure enough it was a Catholic Church.

To me, it resembled a theater in the round and it had ugly orange carpeting. Anyway I eventually ended up moving there and going to that parish. It was not attractive to my eyes, but the parish family was wonderful and the old Monsignor will always be one of my favorite priests. So you just never know.

10 posted on 01/02/2015 7:59:54 AM PST by defconw (If not now, WHEN?)
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To: defconw

“I was born in 1963. The Church, this country and our culture has been in a constant state of chaos my entire life. So unfortunately it’s normal to me.”

Truth. I was born in 1962. Been through the wringer, but “by the grace of God I am what I am”, born of God through faith in Christ Jesus!

One of the “old things” I like is Shakespeare. This from the end of TITUS ANDRONICUS (Rome here not referring to the Church):

You sad-faced men, people and sons of Rome,
By uproar sever’d, like a flight of fowl
Scatter’d by winds and high tempestuous gusts,
O, let me teach you how to knit again
This scatter’d corn into one mutual sheaf,
These broken limbs again into one body;
Lest Rome herself be bane unto herself,
And she whom mighty kingdoms court’sy to,
Like a forlorn and desperate castaway,
Do shameful execution on herself.


11 posted on 01/02/2015 8:01:18 AM PST by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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To: avenir
Yes, it is pays to know how old a person is when you talk to them. To some of us the "good old days" were not that good.

Seeing's how we have dove-tailed into literature. Here is one of my favorites.

"When we take away from a man his traditional way of life, his customs, his religion, we had better make certain to replace it with SOMETHING OF VALUE” ― Robert Ruark, Something Of Value

12 posted on 01/02/2015 8:16:21 AM PST by defconw (If not now, WHEN?)
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To: defconw

When I go into a church my eyes immediately search for the little red candle which says that the real presence is there. I was in a large very fancy Catholic Church awhile ago with my SIL - often they do use the sanctuary for meetings which I’m not happy about but there we were. I asked the priest where the real presence was - he said it was in the adoration chapel. hmmm. This fall Mr. M and I were on a trip and ended up at the Franciscan University in Stubenville PA. It was easy to find the chapel but once inside we went into the main sanctuary and no candle. I was immediately able to find the chapel. Mr. M was rather amazed but it was truly a holy place with probably 30 young people sitting around, some on the floor, many kneeling in adoration. I’ve since been to a chapel at a secular college (they have weird mass times and I had to go to 5 p.m. on a Sunday. I was amazed at the feeling of adoration there. These kids showed up in sweats and some in what I would call jammies but they were so focused on Our Lord and all sang with such passion. It gives me hope for my faith.


13 posted on 01/02/2015 8:17:33 AM PST by Mercat
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To: defconw

**That said, I do love a parish that says the Rosary before Mass and has adoration, and Benediction and the Divine Mercy Chaplets and sings the old songs, and burns the incense and rings the bells**

All of this is happening my parish — we even had Gregorian Chant during Advent.

Indeed, I am fortunate.


14 posted on 01/02/2015 8:17:49 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Fiji Hill

Interesting. I’m wondering how much the Archdiocese had to do with that.

BTW, I’ve heard from an eye witness that the tapestries in the Cathedral there are indeed beautiful.


15 posted on 01/02/2015 8:20:47 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: defconw

Good quote, thank you.


16 posted on 01/02/2015 8:21:05 AM PST by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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To: Mercat
That is good. I want Him front and center. One I went to had Him in a chapel right behind the alter. People actually sat back there for Mass, but it was small. The next one I went to He was right there where He is supposed to be. Then one in Minnesota had him off to the side. The one I go to now does not have Him unless Mass is said.

It's a little church about as big as a closet and we have a priest come out from the Cathedral on Saturday night and Sunday night only. sigh.... We are trying to build a bigger Church. This happens when we move out into the west I guess.

17 posted on 01/02/2015 8:24:07 AM PST by defconw (If not now, WHEN?)
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To: Salvation

I am currently a member of a Methodist church in a smallish town. Mid-year they decided to ‘bring us into the new century’ by adding video to the Traditional service and introducing the Celebration songs...I cannot call them hymns. The video screens all by hide the beautiful large cross and now you no longer need a hymnal as the words are on the screens. So, even though we have two services, they want both to be non-Traditional so us grey hairs conform to the ADHD-ness of the younger members. NOW, I do not care how anyone worships whatever it takes to bring them to Jesus...but to shove this into many who do not like it but won’t say anything is something that seems to backfire. I have been attending a traditional service at another church but am torn between those I got to love and a service I loved and beginning again in a new church of wonderful people!

Personally, I think the audio-video folks have found a new pot of gold in churches and they are selling the conferences on updates!


18 posted on 01/02/2015 8:41:47 AM PST by YouGoTexasGirl
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To: Zionist Conspirator
Right! The truth is that as a Sabbath keeping, Tzitzit wearing Jew Tevye would have certainly known the reason for his “tradition.” The horrible thing about the musical is its sentimental portrayal of Orthodox Judaism as a quaint, weak and dying way of life. The creator of this epistemological disaster was Joseph Stein a liberal screenwriter who produced boilerplate material for many Jewish comics. His education as a sociologist went to his head and he forgot who he was.
19 posted on 01/02/2015 8:59:18 AM PST by Torahman (Remember the Maccabees!)
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To: YouGoTexasGirl
The video screens all by hide the beautiful large cross and now you no longer need a hymnal as the words are on the screens.

And you no longer need a bible since the scriptures used for the sermon are posted on the screen...To me, that is a major mistake...

20 posted on 01/02/2015 9:21:08 AM PST by Iscool
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