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To: Arthur McGowan
Mary’s question to the angel makes no sense unless she had made a vow of virginity.

To you, yes. It would take a lot of deliberate semantic gymnastics to prove that with scriptures. I already asked you for chapter and verse about Mary giving her consent, and you have nothing. So I don't expect to see a scripture proving the "speculation" of a vow either. Hint, it's unBiblical.

She was already married. [You added in another post "by our standards."]

Our standards have nothing to do with it. The standards of the day do though.

I'm not going to spend time explaining the whole process, but here is the condensed version.

Back then it was customary to be espoused for from 3 to 12 months, and then move into a house and start having marital relations.

Espousal was like a contract, and was as binding as marriage, in fact was the first phase of a marriage back then.

But no sex yet. Which was cool, because of the events that took place.

If she expected to have relations with her husband in the near future, her question to the angel makes no sense.

I can't read her mind, can you? There was no indication on her part, or for that matter, on my part that would include "near future" for consummation with her Husband Joseph. She was going to be soon impregnated by the Holy Spirit. That was in the near future.

Your assertion that Mary was speaking only of the PRESENT MOMENT has no basis in the text.

Sure it does. Read my past posts. She plainly stated "How shall this be, seeing I know not a man?"--Luke1:34.

Which meant she had not ever had relations with a man. Pretty clear. Like I said before, she was a bit confused. Can't blame her, it was some pretty heady stuff for a young girl.

The angel did NOT say that she WAS ALREADY pregnant.

Gee, no kidding. What an off the wall statement, makes no sense. Come on, you didn't think I thought that, did you???

I think it would be good for you to study up on some subjects before you post your interpretations of scripture.

And also history. Like history of marriage back at the time in which Joseph and Mary were married.

Oh your link? No thanks. I have been studying this stuff in depth for years and don't have any desire to be thrown off track with the things you seem to be required to learn/believe.

Taking a clue from the Berean Jews to learn scriptural truths. And to discern what is and isn't true. Like they did with Paul.

173 posted on 12/27/2014 9:47:15 PM PST by Syncro (Jesus Christ: The ONLY mediator between God and man)
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To: Syncro

Our FRCatholics miss no opportunity to raise their precious, FALSE M-ry any chance they get.

(What% of catholics VOTED for obama???)


176 posted on 12/28/2014 5:50:38 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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