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1 posted on 12/20/2014 11:25:30 AM PST by millegan
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Interesting article. I was already aware that these two books are only found in the Catholic bible. The Protestants do not include them.

I’m surprised, however, that this article stated that Hanukkah was the most well known Jewish holiday. Wouldn’t that be Passover?


2 posted on 12/20/2014 12:32:39 PM PST by piusv
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I was listening to Glenn Beck's program on Friday where he chatted with a rabbi.

To paraphrase...

Glenn: "When I went to the synagogue I heard the singing which I can only describe as Gregorian chant..."

Rabbi: "Yes, Glenn. This is the tradition of the Levites that has been passed down through the ages...

I thought that perhaps this would be a "Eureka!" moment for Glenn. No such luck...
Glenn: "And I thought, boy, it must make the Jews so angry to have their traditions perverted."
And I thought...

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Jewish converts tend to feel very comfortable with traditional Catholic liturgy, unlike many Protestant converts.

4 posted on 12/20/2014 12:58:13 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: millegan

From what I understand, the early Church took the canon of the Old Testament from what the Jews had at the time of Christ, which included Maccabees. Later, the Jews removed it (4th Century?) and Luther removed a bit more. Luther even wanted to remove the Book of Revelation, but was prevented from doing so.


7 posted on 12/20/2014 1:55:09 PM PST by Slyfox (To put on the mind of George Washington read ALL of Deuteronomy 28, then read his Farewell Address)
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To: millegan

Very amusing.

The Chanukah story is not in the Jewish Bible simply because it happened long after the Jewish ‘canon’ was closed. Purim barely made it.

Of course, there were scrolls called “Megillas Antiochus” that were used for commemoration, but were never part of Tanakh. These were notably preserved in Yemen, which was mostly outside the reach of The Church.

It should be pointed out that there is no surviving “Jewish Septuagint.” It is in the province of Catholic lore. Anything known as a Septuagint “original” is a Christian document. The contention that a Jewish ‘canon’ was changed after hundreds of years is laughable to anyone familiar with the history of Jews and Judaism.


10 posted on 12/20/2014 4:48:33 PM PST by hlmencken3 (Originalist on the the 'general welfare' clause? No? NOT an originalist!)
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To: millegan
How the Catholic Church Saved Hanukkah

Yeah...

Sure...

59 posted on 12/21/2014 11:37:08 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: millegan

Not for nothing but, notice how the MSM is all about wishing their viewers “Happy Hanukah” with never a mention of “Merry Christmas”. The MSM resorts to the old cliché of “Happy Holidays”. This does not hold true for FNN. But I’ll say it here, MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL!


76 posted on 12/21/2014 1:20:55 PM PST by kenmcg
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