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To: Petrosius
The office of presbyter has continued to exist in the Catholic Church. In English this office is know as that of priest.

Yes, I understand the practice of ignoring Scripture is rife in the Catholic cult, but that does not establish it in light of clear understanding of the New Testament. I already posted Paul's qualifications for the position of church leadership, and it clearly sets out that first the man must be a good father to his own children.

The Catholic distortion clearly does not meet any off those standards!

Again, nice try, but no banana!!!


28 posted on 12/17/2014 7:24:16 PM PST by WVKayaker (Impeachment is the Constitution's answer for a derelict, incompetent president! -Sarah Palin 7/26/14)
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To: WVKayaker
I already posted Paul's qualifications for the position of church leadership, and it clearly sets out that first the man must be a good father to his own children.

If your understanding is that one must be a father then that would disqualify Paul himself! No, what Paul is stating is that those fathers who are to be chosen must be a good father to one's own children. One that has shown that he cannot govern his own household is unfit to govern the church. But this does not mean that those not fathers are disqualified.

You also err in thinking that the ministries of the church are based on Scripture. No, the offices of episcopoi, presbuteroi and deaconoi were established prior to the completion of the New Testament and are not derived from it. This is a major misunderstanding of those who would advance sola scriptura. These offices were established by the authority of the church herself, an authority attested to by the Scriptures and which continues to exist.

33 posted on 12/17/2014 7:39:31 PM PST by Petrosius
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