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To: Dutchboy88
I absolutely DENY that the text reports Jesus saying that the eleven Jewish disciples (soon to be apostles) must baptize newly made disciples with water. Rather the text says in the "name of the Father and the Son and Holy Spirit." Do you have a reading impairment? This is like the fourth time I have said this.
    It seems to me you are in a cult and all these testify against you. I could raise many more witnesses but what is the point if one is hardened in doctrinal error ?
  1. Dr. Charles Stanley First Baptist Church of Atlanta:
    In the passage known as the Great Commission, Jesus mentions discipleship, baptism, and teaching. We all agree that discipleship and teaching are essential to growing in faith; however, some Christians choose to postpone or ignore the commandment to be baptized. The will of God is that every person who receives salvation participate in this biblically mandated ritual.

    Once Jesus delivered this charge to His followers, baptism was no longer optional. Scripture contains several examples of new Christians who submitted in obedience immediately after salvation. Paul and Silas instructed their jailer to receive Christ and be baptized (Acts 16:27-33); likewise, Phillip took the Ethiopian eunuch right into the water after hearing his confession of faith (Acts 8:36-38). Today many believers procrastinate because they do not perceive baptism as a command or recognize their delay as rebellion.

    Too many believers today procrastinate because they do not perceive baptism as a command or recognize delay as a rebellion. The ordinance is important because it is a public confession of faith: we claim God as our Father and Jesus Christ as Savior, and we acknowledge that the Holy Spirit lives in us. The willingness to humble ourselves in this way honors God as Lord of our life. Baptism by immersion also symbolizes the transforming power of salvation: we are “buried” to demonstrate we have died to old habits; we are raised to show we now walk in newness of life (Romans 6:4).

    Have you obeyed God’s command to undergo believer’s baptism? If not, decide today to call your pastor and arrange your public confession of faith in the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit."
  2. Assemblies of God :
    Baptism is an act of obedience.

    We baptize new believers in obedience to Jesus’ command.

    And Jesus came up and spoke to them, saying, "All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.” Matthew 28:18–20 (NASB)

    We call these verses “The Great Commission.” In them, Jesus commands His followers to take the message of the good news about Jesus into the entire world. The command to baptize followers of Jesus is a very important part of this command.
  3. Dallas Theological Seminary :
    Article XIV—The Sacrament or Ordinances

    We believe that water baptism and the Lord’s Supper are the only sacraments and ordinances of the church and that they are a scriptural means of testimony for the church in this age (Matt. 28:19; Luke 22:19–20; Acts 10:47–48; 16:32–33; 18:7–8; 1 Cor. 11:26).
  4. Calvary Chapel Association :
    We believe that the Lord Jesus Christ instituted two ordinances for the church: (a) full immersion water baptism of believers, and (b) the Lord’s Supper. (Matthew 28:19; Luke 22:19-20; Acts 2:38; 1 Corinthians 11:23-26)

3,383 posted on 12/28/2014 12:21:23 PM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: af_vet_1981

Well, tragically, Mr. Stanley could not stay married to a woman to whom he committed his life, until death do they part. But, his flesh is weak and his theology, weaker.

AOG believes in way too much man-made showy “gifting” and comes up short on every one of them. I know many very well.

Dallas’ Chuck Ryrie, (and several of his protégés) the same problem with women as Stanley.

And, don’t get me going on Calvary Chapel. Too much gambling and playing around.

You may need a better teacher here, my FRiend. The thief on the cross was not baptized in water, but he certainly was baptized by the Holy Spirit into the Body of Christ. If you wish to know more about the real incredibly good news of Jesus Christ, drop me a note.


3,597 posted on 12/29/2014 7:37:09 AM PST by Dutchboy88
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