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To: annalex
"That is the larger context of 1 Cor. 11, but in the passage in focus St. Paul speaks of "eating" and "drinking" next to "discerning the body" and is repeating the words of Christ "this is my body". So the "body" in that passage is no longer the Christian assembly but precisely the Eucharist being eaten. "

The immediate section of I corinthians 11 are the Apostle's words Correcting Abuse of the Lord’s Supper

17 In the following directives I have no praise for you, for your meetings do more harm than good. 18 In the first place, I hear that when you come together as a church, there are divisions among you, and to some extent I believe it. 19 No doubt there have to be differences among you to show which of you have God’s approval. 20 So then, when you come together, it is not the Lord’s Supper you eat, 21 for when you are eating, some of you go ahead with your own private suppers. As a result, one person remains hungry and another gets drunk. 22 Don’t you have homes to eat and drink in? Or do you despise the church of God by humiliating those who have nothing? What shall I say to you? Shall I praise you? Certainly not in this matter!

23 For I received from the Lord what I also passed on to you: The Lord Jesus, on the night he was betrayed, took bread, 24 and when he had given thanks, he broke it and said, “This is my body, which is for you; do this in remembrance of me.” 25 In the same way, after supper he took the cup, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in my blood; do this, whenever you drink it, in remembrance of me.” 26 For whenever you eat this bread and drink this cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death until he comes.

27 So then, whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of sinning against the body and blood of the Lord. 28 Everyone ought to examine themselves before they eat of the bread and drink from the cup. 29 For those who eat and drink without discerning the body of Christ eat and drink judgment on themselves. 30 That is why many among you are weak and sick, and a number of you have fallen asleep. 31 But if we were more discerning with regard to ourselves, we would not come under such judgment. 32 Nevertheless, when we are judged in this way by the Lord, we are being disciplined so that we will not be finally condemned with the world.

33 So then, my brothers and sisters, when you gather to eat, you should all eat together. 34 Anyone who is hungry should eat something at home, so that when you meet together it may not result in judgment.

And when I come I will give further directions.

The context is the context. Paul is writing about relationships with fellow believers and how to approach the Lord's Supper. There are relationship considerations for every believer, for the failure to consider other believers in the context of the Lord's Supper is condemned by Paul. After identifying and condemning these practices, Paul reiterates what He received directly from the Lord - including a command to discern the Body. He then goes right back to abuses against other believers. Eating worthily involves a self-examination. In this context, a self-examination of treating every member of the Body of Christ with honor.

3,309 posted on 12/27/2014 3:43:59 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion ( "I didn't leave the Central Oligarchy Party. It left me." - Ronaldus Maximus)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Evidently Rome failed to deal with DIVISION!

Look what happened to SEVEN of it’s early churches!!

(Cue the crickets)


3,349 posted on 12/28/2014 5:33:24 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
The context is the context. Paul is writing about relationships with fellow believers and how to approach the Lord's Supper. There are relationship considerations for every believer, for the failure to consider other believers in the context of the Lord's Supper is condemned by Paul.

Indeed, for while RCs only see "this is my body" out of which they contrive a form of endocannibalism, as i have often shown before by God's grace, what the context of 1 Cor. 11:19-34, most clearly teaches is that believers are to effectually recognize that the church is the body of Christ

And which is to show (declare, proclaim) the Lord's death by how they take part in the communal "feast of charity," (cf. Jude. 1:12) showing their unity with Him and each other with unselfish love, which Christ supremely showed in purchasing the church with His sinless shed blood. (cf. Acts 20:28)

Thus the sin of some was not effectually recognizing others as part of that body for whom Christ died, but going ahead and selfishly eating independent of others, even shaming them that have not. Thus the nature of the elements was not the focus, but it was that of the corporate body of Christ, which is also the focus in the proceeding chapter 12, and which was the reason why Paul also said "I will eat no flesh while the world standeth, lest I make my brother to offend." (1Co. 8:13)

Moreover, instead of dispensing bread as part of their ordained function, the primary work of NT pastors is prayer and preaching, (Acts 6:3,4) to "Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine." (2 Timothy 4:2)

And which is what is said to "nourish" the souls of believers, and believing it is how the lost obtain life in themselves. (1 Timothy 4:6; Psalms 19:7;Acts 15:7-9)

Thanks be to God. Thus formally identifying a distinctive class of Christian clergy as “priests” rather than “presbyters” (elders) is not only grammatically incorrect by it is functionally unwarranted and unscriptural.

Even the Catholic NAB notes states concerning v. 28 states:

The self-testing required for proper eating involves discerning the body (1 Cor 11:29), which, from the context, must mean understanding the sense of Jesus’ death (1 Cor 11:26), perceiving the imperative to unity that follows from the fact that Jesus gives himself to all and requires us to repeat his sacrifice in the same spirit (1 Cor 11:18–25). - http://usccb.org/bible/1corinthians/11

3,412 posted on 12/28/2014 2:11:04 PM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

The larger context does not negate the fact that the body and blood of Jesus is mentioned right next to the need to “discern the body”. Whose body? That is clear too, because the Last Supper words of consecration are repeated: “This is my body”. At the Last Supper, did Jesus speak of how people should first eat at home, etc.?


3,839 posted on 12/29/2014 7:55:40 PM PST by annalex (fear them not)
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