Is Prayer/Veneration/Worship to Mary Biblical?

self | 12-14-14 | ealgeone

[ealgeone]

The reason for this article is to determine if the worship/veneration given to Mary by the catholic church is justified from a Biblical perspective. This will be evaluated using the Biblical standard and not man’s standard.

[ealgeone]

So why do you and others regularly post statements and complaints about the Roman Catholic Church?

Because the RCC teaches lies....assumption of Mary, immaculate conception, indulgences, etc....

[CynicalBear]

>>Why don’t they understand that?<<

\ They study Catholicism not scripture.

[spacejunkie2001]

Elsie....you are TOO funny! LOL

love it.

[dadgum]

I agree with you.

Please humor me, what is I Cor 13 all about? What is the core message?

[MamaB]

I just had a thought. If I did not read the Bible and did not believe it is the Word of God, then how am I a Christian? Sounds like a cult from what I have read and seen on tv.

[Grateful2God]

My apologies, my last post was rather long and I will missed a phrase:

I also believe that this kind of charity, especially for those gone before

Ought to read:

I also believe that this kind of charity, especially for those gone before, most especially for those who may have hurt me in my life

Sorry 'bout that, and thanks for your patience!

[CynicalBear]

Deuteronomy 12:23 Only be sure that thou eat not the blood

Acts 15:20 But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood.

[MamaB]

Numbers do not make anything right. Y’all keep bragging on that, but if what they are taught is so wrong, then what good is it? I believe the Bible not what man says. Don’t y’all read it?

[dadgum]

Ok....

The message is that anything done without Christ’s love in ones heart, is worthless - even if it is true.

I am seeing a lot of truths being thrown about, but I am seeing a lot of wrath as well, which is sad.

I’m not making light of this.

One really needs to take great care to examine ones own heart motivation before correcting another. Truth is good. Truth without love is not good.

[St_Thomas_Aquinas]

St. Paul:

For I received from the Lord what I also passed on to you: The Lord Jesus, on the night he was betrayed, took bread, and when he had given thanks, he broke it and said, “This is my body, which is for you; do this in remembrance of me.” In the same way, after supper he took the cup, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in my blood; do this, whenever you drink it, in remembrance of me.” For whenever you eat this bread and drink this cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death until he comes.

So then, whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of sinning against the body and blood of the Lord. Everyone ought to examine themselves before they eat of the bread and drink from the cup. For those who eat and drink without discerning the body of Christ eat and drink judgment on themselves. That is why many among you are weak and sick, and a number of you have fallen asleep [died].

[xone]

Clearly not true, those in heaven are part of the mystical body of Christ, we aren't to pray to them. As for Staples' blog, your contention must be that the elders are passing out the prayers that they received from the saints on earth who had been praying to them. As we have no clue from the text who the elders are, in the context of what scripture teaches they are the prayers of the saints on earth to God and the symbology is incense. No where are Christians enjoined to render prayer to angels.

This is New Testament Christianity.

No this is Catholicism going beyond what is written...again.

[ADSUM]

I know you don’t understand or want to accept the Catholic teaching, but keep trying it may come to you.

I don’t accept your premise or your illogical conclusion. I know that the Catholic teaching has been explained to you.

I truly hope that some day that you will see and understand the Truth.

May God’s peace be with you.

[xone]

Are you saying that Prots and Catholics worship a different God?

Their catechism states they worship the same god as the Muslims, so it would be a different god.

[LurkingSince'98]

Do you honestly think that 1.2 Billion Catholics are ignorant of scripture.

You really need to read what happened after the apostles died.

you can start here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_Fathers

For the Greater Glory of God

[terycarl]

Oh yes, she is dead and has been for a very long time. The Bble says all have sinned and did not include, “except for Mary.”.

trying my hardest to think of those sins commited by Jesus, but none come to mind...and remember He was ALL MAN as well as ALL GOD...not 50-50.....but I don't think that His human nature sinned.....there was, however, that time that he was angered and threw the money changers out of the temple....or that time that He stayed in Jerusalem preaching to the crowd and both Mary and Joseph were worried and had to return to search Him out..(Honor thy Father and thy Mother)....probably situations to be forgotten.....

[LurkingSince'98]

They study Catholicism not scripture.

that’s a nice bigoted anti-Catholic lie and you know it.

Ad Majoram Dei Gloriam

[Grateful2God]

Many things are asked from God and are not granted; they are asked from Mary and are obtained. Now why is this? Because God has thus decreed to honor His Mother.

How do you feel about the personal interaction between Jesus and Mother Mary, and its result, in the Gospel account of the Marriage Feast at Cana?

de Montfort has written many books, compiled under the title, "God Alone" as in, God alone suffices. There are those who choose to follow his motto of, "to Jesus, through Mary." If such a thing leads a soul to Jesus, isn't it a good thing? Isn't that important? It was through Mary that God made Jesus man. de Montfort's is one way to Jesus: but isn't being led to Christ the desire of the Christian for himself and others?

God bless you!

[CynicalBear]

We have to love people enough to care for their lives here on earth and the eternity before them. It would not be loving them to allow them to remain in error.

[xone]

What is the core message?

Love, a love that rejoiceth in the truth.

[CynicalBear]

"It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life."

"and the natural man doth not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for to him they are foolishness, and he is not able to know them, because spiritually they are discerned;"