Posted on 12/14/2014 11:57:21 AM PST by ealgeone
The reason for this article is to determine if the worship/veneration given to Mary by the catholic church is justified from a Biblical perspective. This will be evaluated using the Biblical standard and not man’s standard.
Yes it would. I think that there are very few who understand the difference.
I’m thinking there are many Catholics who rue the day that the internet included so much information about the Catholic Church.
Interesting how the apostles didn't make that distinction but you do.
That Catholic Church made that all up. It's fantasy based in paganism.
STILL???
Poor girl.....
Has it happened yet?
Didn’t read far enough ahead.
CONGRATULATIONS!!!!
Wrong.
Venerate - Latin veneratus, past participle of venerari, from vener-, venus love, charm
Synonyms - adore, deify, glorify, revere, reverence, worship [http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/venerate]
Interesting that worship is one of the synonyms isn't it? By observing the words and actions of Catholics regarding their statues of Mary and their so called saints simple respect would not be the first word that comes to mind.
Doesn’t matter. We speak English. The word venerate is not the same as the word worship. It has a different meaning.
So, until someone says “Sorry...but we really mean ‘worship’”, then I’ll have a VENERABLE attitude toward Mary, Daniel, Isaiah, John the Baptist, etc.
I think we get more mileage holding people to the meanings of the words they use.
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Congrats and congrats to the new parents!!
So when you see the pope, priest, and people kneeling in front of those statues and praying to them do you see worship or veneration? Additionally whey you venerate someone does it include the actions and attitudes shown by Catholics to those statues.
Christians recognize Mary for what she did and who she was.
The Bible notes she will count her blessed for all generations. In the Greek, this is in the future tense.
All generations do count her blessed.
However, Christians do not "venerate" Mary like catholicism does. Catholicism, though probably well intended, has crossed the line between the Biblical injunction of counting Mary as blessed to full fledged worship.
Exactly.
It doesn’t matter what they do. We hold them to the meaning of the word ‘venerate’.
Let’s say you verate — deeply respect — your old high school algebra teacher. Do you kneel before her with your face on the ground?
If she is in a hospital bed, I might just kneel to get closer to hear, but I’m not real sure of any value in my face to the ground.
That doesn’t strike me as the meaning of the word ‘venerate’. Words have meanings. Hold people to them.
There are 7,959 verses in the NT.
About 40 deal with Mary either directly or indirectly.
So 0.50% of the verses in the New Testament deals with Mary.
Mary is mentioned specifically by name 12x in Luke; 5x in Matthew; 1x in Mark; 1x in Acts.
Mary is an important part of the Christian narrative regarding the birth of our Savior, but she is not the central focus of the New Testament as catholicism has made her out to be.
I assure you that NEVER happend! :)
It does, if you read it with your head on. There is indeed a rule in every culture: if you have two kinds of wine to serve, serve the better wine first. Why? Because after a glass or two, the senses dull a bit and the drinker cannot tell the difference. In other words, once you are drunk, you don't notice that the quality shifted for the worse. That is what happened at the wedding also: they "have well drunk" when the miracle happened. They were, in other words, drunk already and Jesus gave them more wine. He made them more drunk than they were already.
Now, did Jesus encourage sin? Not at all: to celebrate with wine is a commendable activity and not a sin. Sinful would be to drink to the point of incapacitation habitually, -- what is colloquially in America known as "fall-down drunk". That man would be a drunkard and there are many admonitions against that. But drinking wine in proper measure is a part of Mediterranean culture and always has been.
I shall drink it with you new in the kingdom of my Father (Matthew 26:29)
What does it have to do with the fact that after the people “well drunk” Jesus gave them more wine?
Are you trying to accuse me alongside Jesus in the words of the Jews who killed Him?
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