I Hated the Idea of Becoming Catholic

Aleteia ^ | JUNE 20, 2014 | ANTHONY BARATTA

[Elsie]

I meant to include you in 960 but the post button defaults to one person.

No 'default' to it.

A post is only capable of being posted BY one person; therefore any reply is TO that person.

One may include others in the To: box if they wish.

[Elsie]

A post is only capable of being posted BY one person; therefore any reply is TO that person.

My wish is that the PRIVATE Reply function would return the NUMBER of the post that IT came from, like the POST Reply one does.

[Elsie]

: Matthew 24:10-14 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.

This is an easily detected FALSE translation; for the ending phase is MISSING!

In the Hebrew (found in the Book of Zelph) the ending phrase is found:

...and will post endlessly on FR.

[Elsie]

Going Postal?

One must first be gruntled; if they are to become DISgruntled.

[Elsie]

What a gross misapplication of scripture!

Says a person who truly believes that Peter is the Rock Jesus was speaking about.

[Elsie]

Paul did not instruct Titus to yell "Shut Up!" at those insubordinate clowns who were teaching flagrant errors.

At least they weren't FOOLS.

[Elsie]

Paul did not instruct Titus to yell "Shut Up!" at those insubordinate clowns who were teaching flagrant errors.

HMMMmmm...

Galatians 2:11
But when Cephas came to Antioch, I opposed him to his face, because he stood condemned.

[Elsie]

In reality, anyone can pull snippets and words and phrases out of the Bible and pretty much make it say whatever they want.

Ok, Mary. We'll tell 'em!!!

[Elsie]

...and he does seem to have a good memory as for comments persons here make...

Maybe; but where have I lain my glasses?

[Elsie]

I must 'fess up to my mistake in my previous post.

The language was Reformed Egyptian; NOT Hebrew.

Sorry for any confusion.

I've not had my coffee yet.

(Have I???)

[Elsie]

...those insubordinate clowns who were teaching flagrant errors.

"Write on a scroll what you see and send it to the seven churches: to Ephesus, and to Smyrna, and to Pergamos, and to Thyatira, and to Sardis, and to Philadelphia, and to Laodicea."

[Elsie]

Now I’m off to find another windmill...

[af_vet_1981]

As for your "salvation by grammar" barb, God chose what He chose as the linguistic wrapper on His message. If you don't like it, why complain to me about it?

Then the logical conclusion of that argument is that we should be in a process of returning to a pure language so we can understand God. We should not use English to discuss doctrine because English is a flawed language. The KJV and other English translations are incapable of explaining doctrine without delving into Hebrew, Greek, and Latin to reveal these divine truths because the common people will not understand. This sounds familiar.

[Elsie]

I think no matter WHICH language is chosen, the Bible has indicated you'll have problems articulating certain things...

2 Corinthians 9:15
1 Peter 1:6-9

[af_vet_1981]

So when His apostle tells us that "the Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:," what choice do we have but to set aside our useless introspection and trust that He has spoken truthfully with us? If we believe in Him, not in our own belief, then we have a solid anchor. We are not in this alone. He is real. He helps us. So many of us can give testimony to how He has transformed our lives from cesspools of iniquity to streams of living water, just as He promised. He is faithful, even when we are not. Like Israel, He has redeemed us not because we were better or more trustworthy than anyone else, but because by saving such complete and miserable failures, He will get all the more glory. The twenty-four elders cast their crowns at His feet because they know those crowns, that glory, belongs entirely to Him.

I like this. I might make a small edit to but because by saving such He loves us, He saves us, who on our own are complete and miserable failures, He will get all the more glory and we will get all the more benefit.

[Resettozero]

Johnny Fever did that stunt too?

[af_vet_1981]

I defer to the council rulings of the holy catholic apostolic church and the catechism of the Catholic Church, lest I stray from the truth.

As for whether partaking in the Holy Spirit is identical to partaking in Christ, I'd have to defend the traditional view of the Trinity and say that can't be the case, else you are rejecting the distinction of the persons of the Trinity. There is not an absolute commutation of all attributes from one person to the other. Else you would have to argue the Holy Spirit had a biological body like Christ, or died for our sins, or rose from the dead. That is a dangerous path. It's the kind of thought that leads to the Oneness Pentecostal heresy. In their quest for their own view of perfect monotheism, they squeeze all the differences out of the three distinct persons, and so end up with a false god.

Are you saying the same audience in Hebrews can be at the same time partakers of the heavenly calling, partakers of the Holy Spirit, and not partakers of Messiah ? What do you think the heavenly calling is ? Who sent the Holy Spirit ?. Look up the six instances of "metochos" (partaker), especially in Hebrews here.

Subsequent to the Messiah ascending and the Holy Spirit descending on the holy catholic apostolic church at Shavuot/Pentecost I see no instance where anyone was made a partaker of the Holy Spirit without being made a partaker of Messiah. I don't see some gradual slope where the three persons of the Trinity operate independently so that one day someone because metochos of the heavenly calling, another time later metochos of the Holy Spirit, another day, week, year, or never they become metochos of Messiah, and again at some future time or never metochos if the Father. God is One. Messiah is at the Father's right hand and He sent the Comforter. You can be convicted of the Holy Spirit without being a partaker/metochos. That is not the case in Hebrews. <

[Springfield Reformer]

I had a friend back in my MBI days who used to be a disk jockey in some small Midwest market. One day, after they ran the emergency broadcast test signal, he got on the air and said something like, “This was only a test. If it had been the real thing you would have been blown to bits by now.” And yes, he lost his job over it. Can’t imagine why ...

And wasn’t it Carlson who had the issue with turkeys?

[Utah Binger]

I've not had my coffee yet.

Some of us have coffee at normal hours.

[Resettozero]

Yes, Carlson with the non-flying turkeys.

I thought Elsie might have been referring also to the show because Fever might have pulled the Santa is dead stunt, too. I don’t remember seeing it on KRP.

Never shall forget Tim doing RADIO broadcast of the Christmas parade!