[ravenwolf]

Or were you having an inside joke with Elsie?

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That was the idea.

not counting the confused disciples’ lottery pick.>>>>

Oh Oh, mine did not work but we can have one here, you really believe the eleven chosen apostles were confused?

[Resettozero]

...you really believe the eleven chosen apostles were confused?

Don't know what to call them; ill-informed? Impatient?

Matthias, whom the Eleven selected, isn't mentioned again in the New Testament but Paul, who encountered Jesus Christ in Person and was called by Jesus Christ by name and not by number, certainly is.

Why would someone elevate St. Matthias as an Apostle of Jesus over Paul, who you seem to relegate to a lower position of Authority and Calling in Christ's Church?

[Elsie]

Oh Oh, mine did not work but we can have one here, you really believe the eleven chosen apostles were confused?

Of COURSE they were; with no Magicsteeriems to enlighten them to what they'd be teaching shortly!

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Luke 24:44-46

Now He said to them, "These are My words which I spoke to you while I was still with you, that all things which are written about Me in the Law of Moses and the Prophets and the Psalms must be fulfilled."
Then He opened their minds to understand the Scriptures, and He said to them, "Thus it is written, that the Christ would suffer and rise again from the dead the third day...

[Elsie]

... all things which are written about Me in the Law of Moses and the Prophets and the Psalms must be fulfilled."
Then He opened their minds to understand the Scriptures, and He said to them, "Thus it is written, that the Christ ...

No!!

Wait!!!!

It's REALLY supposed to be:

...thus, according to tradition and the teaching of the church fathers; people will NOT be able to understand the things I've told you...