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To: CdMGuy
This Catholic says that except for a few exceptions, and we already know most of those, the rest of the Bishops/Archbishops/Cardinals are a bunch of left wing weenies. Many of them do not even adhere to the doctrines of the Catholic Church. Think Wuerl, think Dolan, think O’Malley, the latter of whom disgraced himself last Sunday on 60 Minutes. They are American versions of German Cardinal Kasper.

Do you think that your characterization of these Church leaders as "a bunch of left wing weenies" might violate Canon 212?:

In accord with the knowledge, competence, and preeminence that they possess, [the laity] have the right and even at times a duty to manifest to the sacred pastors their opinion on matters that pertain to the good of the Church, and they have a right to make their opinion known to the other Christian faithful with due regard for the integrity of faith and morals and reverence toward their pastors, and with consideration for the common good and the dignity of persons.

JPII's thoughts on the matter:

"Unity with the bishop is the essential and indispensable attitude of the faithful Catholic, for one cannot claim to be on the pope’s side without also standing by the bishops in communion with him. Nor can one claim to be with the bishop without standing by the head of the college."
19 posted on 11/24/2014 5:43:31 AM PST by armydoc
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To: armydoc; CdMGuy; BlatherNaut

ANY CATHOLIC that votes for a democrat has renigged on the right to call themselves Catholic. You absolutely can not be for abortion and be a Catholic at the same time, and this includes the laity and clergy. Hypocrites all!

No other issues morally trump issues of intrinsic evil such as racism and abortion — not immigration, poverty or war. Today a Catholic voter who has learned the facts about the Party of Death, and who votes for any Democrat, necessarily has the intent to support abortion and RETA, and formally cooperates in grave evil, committing a mortal sin. This is detailed in the document Virtuous Citizenship 2014 available at http://www.sinvotedemocrat.com or http://www.pecadovotardemocrata.com.


20 posted on 11/24/2014 6:48:41 AM PST by NKP_Vet ("Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus")
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To: armydoc; CdMGuy; NKP_Vet
Do you think that your characterization of these Church leaders as "a bunch of left wing weenies" might violate Canon 212?: In accord with the knowledge, competence, and preeminence that they possess, [the laity] have the right and even at times a duty to manifest to the sacred pastors their opinion on matters that pertain to the good of the Church, and they have a right to make their opinion known to the other Christian faithful with due regard for the integrity of faith and morals and reverence toward their pastors, and with consideration for the common good and the dignity of persons. JPII's thoughts on the matter: "Unity with the bishop is the essential and indispensable attitude of the faithful Catholic, for one cannot claim to be on the pope’s side without also standing by the bishops in communion with him. Nor can one claim to be with the bishop without standing by the head of the college."

Pope JP II fought against the "Culture of Death" in word and deed until his dying breath. Can anyone claim that bishops who lend their support to a political party which promotes death and perversion as a core tenet remain in communion with Christ and His Church?

Regarding Canon 212, it can be reasonably argued that the common good and the dignity of persons (and most importantly, the right to life) may be more effectively defended with bluntness than with obsequiousness. If a pastor molests an altar boy, he is a pervert, and if a pastor supports socialists, he is a socialist (aka left wing weenie). Truth is truth.

21 posted on 11/24/2014 10:36:40 AM PST by BlatherNaut
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