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Is There Still Issues With The CHD Second Collection? (Vanity)
Vanity ^ | November 23, 2014 | Biggirl

Posted on 11/23/2014 4:12:50 AM PST by Biggirl

Good Morning. I have a brief question and it is in regards to the yearly second collection, called the "Campaign For Human Development" or CHD which takes place each weekend before Thanksgiving Day in Catholic parishes across the United States. This weekend my parish priest told parishoners there will be no second collection taken for CHD. I remember there were issues involving this collection over the last few years. Is there still issues with CHD going on?

My diocese is the Hartford, CT archdiocese and I believe the other parishes have taken up this collection.

Thank-you for your response and God Bless.


TOPICS: Catholic; Ministry/Outreach
KEYWORDS: americanbishops; chd
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1 posted on 11/23/2014 4:12:51 AM PST by Biggirl
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To: Biggirl

Depends whether or not one has a problem with their sacrificial charitable donations being funneled to various leftist causes such as community organizing and “environmental justice”. I stopped giving when I discovered that the contributions in our diocese were being funneled to democrat party front groups working directly against the interests of Catholics under the pretext of “social justice”.

“Since 2013, CCHD has invested nearly $2.5. million in community organizations to support environmental justice”.

http://www.usccb.org/issues-and-action/human-life-and-dignity/environment/environmental-justice-program/upload/Environmental-Justice-CCHD-Map-2013-2015.pdf


2 posted on 11/23/2014 4:31:53 AM PST by BlatherNaut
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To: Biggirl

I don’t do 2nd collections so I don’t have to worry.


3 posted on 11/23/2014 4:44:43 AM PST by tiki
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To: BlatherNaut

Once Catholic Charities got into bed with Big Government, I knew it was over. Not a nickel, not a penny to CHD or anything outside of the parish coffers. Except Peter’s Pence, which I’m rethinking with this new Pope.


4 posted on 11/23/2014 4:48:38 AM PST by john drake (Lucius Accius-Roman,170 BC - "oderint dum metuant" translated "Let them hate so long as they fear")
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To: Biggirl
Our church requested that we not donate to the second collection, to avoid embarrassing the church and ourselves. The basket for those who insist on donating will be located in the front foyer during Mass.

Walking the fine line between obeying the Bishop and aboiding evil.

Our old church in Illinois would just not take the collection at all.
5 posted on 11/23/2014 5:09:30 AM PST by Dr. Sivana ("If you're litigating against nuns, you've probably done something wrong."-Ted Cruz)
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To: BlatherNaut

Have read online that there has been efforts to reform the CHD back in 2012. But from a quick read, the “issues in question” is still going on.


6 posted on 11/23/2014 5:10:19 AM PST by Biggirl (2014 MIdterms Were BOTH A Giant Wave And Restraining Order)
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To: Biggirl
CCHD head sits on board of group while he oversees grants to its affiliates, critic alleges ethical violation

Several Catholic Campaign for Human Development (CCHD) grantees are affiliates of Interfaith Worker Justice (IWJ), a worker advocacy group whose leadership is full of individuals who promote abortion and homosexuality, and many who are committed Marxist socialists, according to a report by the Lepanto Institute.

7 posted on 11/23/2014 5:37:53 AM PST by icwhatudo (Low taxes and less spending in Sodom and Gomorrah is not my idea of a conservative victory)
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To: Biggirl

The groups on the grant lists have been told not to take stands that expressly undermine Church teaching so the $ can still flow.

One group in Baltimore, that received funding from the CCHD in 2013, has on its website the importance of voting and how it will affect marriage “equity” (HOMOSEXUAL MARRIAGE). Since they don’t actually state their position, and are only saying its important to vote, the money still flows.


8 posted on 11/23/2014 5:52:22 AM PST by icwhatudo (Low taxes and less spending in Sodom and Gomorrah is not my idea of a conservative victory)
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Even the HuPo did an article a few days ago CCHD:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/julie-leininger-pycior/odd-couple-us-catholic-bi_b_6196292.html?utm_hp_ref=barack-obama


9 posted on 11/23/2014 6:40:17 AM PST by Biggirl (2014 MIdterms Were BOTH A Giant Wave And Restraining Order)
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To: Dr. Sivana

I had talked to a parish deacon and he said that it is a MANDITORY second collection, the CHD. The priest who is at the present time administering the parish is really, really is walking a very fine line himself.

I have had issues with this second collection myself the last few years now. But I also had wondered if there were any “reforms” at all going on.


10 posted on 11/23/2014 6:44:44 AM PST by Biggirl (2014 MIdterms Were BOTH A Giant Wave And Restraining Order)
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To: icwhatudo

Thanks so much for that link. I have stopped giving money to anything sponsored by the US Bishops Council, as well. Only my own parish gets money from me in collections.


11 posted on 11/23/2014 7:58:00 AM PST by Bigg Red (Congress, do your duty and repo his pen and his phone.)
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To: Biggirl

I was a parish administrator and that second collection is scheduled annually by the bishops. The parish priest can’t refuse to participate in it publicly without disobeying his bishop. But the pastor doesn’t have to promote it either just go through the motions.


12 posted on 11/23/2014 8:08:39 AM PST by pleasenotcalifornia
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To: Biggirl

The CCHD, for forty years, has been run by hard-left radicals. It’s basically Joseph Bernardin’s gift to Saul Alinsky, that keeps on giving and giving and giving.

These are the type of people who DON’T KNOW anybody but fellow hard-left radicals.

They have been caught again and again and again and again giving money to pro-abortion, pro-gay groups. They can’t help themselves. Every time they get caught, the lefty bishop in charge issues an angry denial. When the evidence is just too, too damning, some cosmetic adjustment will be made.

A Catholic should give to Planned Parenthood before giving to CCHD. In fact, if you give to CCHD, some of the money will find its way to Planned Parenthood.


13 posted on 11/23/2014 8:13:26 AM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: Biggirl

We do the first offering then if it for something important we do...but only for our church, not for big government.


14 posted on 11/23/2014 8:42:09 AM PST by ExCTCitizen (I'm ExCTCitizen and I approve this reply. If it does offend Libs, I'm NOT sorry...)
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To: pleasenotcalifornia

“I was a parish administrator and that second collection is scheduled annually by the bishops. The parish priest can’t refuse to participate in it publicly without disobeying his bishop. But the pastor doesn’t have to promote it either just go through the motions.”

The parish pastor that is there now, at my parish, is what is called a pastor administrator, if memory serves me correct, is called that for one year, if he does well, becomes the head pastor,you would know more about titles. He put it out in the parish buletin that there will not be the second collection for CHD and simply to just rip up the envelopes. I was told by the deacon in a prior thread that it is a mandatory second collection. So in other words, he is in trouble with the Archbishop.

In other words, to make simple in one sentence what I just typed, the pastor administrator in question had “cut his nose in spite of his face” which means he will not get the head pastor position come next July. He did not obey the archbishop.


15 posted on 11/23/2014 10:18:43 AM PST by Biggirl (2014 MIdterms Were BOTH A Giant Wave And Restraining Order)
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To: ExCTCitizen

You got it. Said it better then me. :)


16 posted on 11/23/2014 10:24:59 AM PST by Biggirl (2014 MIdterms Were BOTH A Giant Wave And Restraining Order)
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The trick now with the 2nd collection for CCHD is to disguise it or lump it in with two other worthwhile charities.


17 posted on 11/23/2014 10:55:08 AM PST by RBStealth (--raised by wolves, disciplined and educated by nuns, and kneeling at the feet of Mary)
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To: Biggirl

There must still be issues. My parish doesn’t do this collection. Hasn’t for years.


18 posted on 11/23/2014 11:19:56 AM PST by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them)
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To: Biggirl

He might make it the pastor of that parish(Rector)anyway. There is a shortage of priests but chances are the Archbishop will have words with him. You can bet the progressives in your parish complained and went crying to the Archbishop. I wish more Catholic clergy were like your parish pastor. We need men and leaders like him so much.


19 posted on 11/23/2014 2:04:25 PM PST by pleasenotcalifornia
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To: Biggirl
In our diocese it was collected last Sunday (today's bulletin reported the amount collected). I didn't put anything in and I noticed that not many people were putting in. Today was a more logical date for the collection given the Gospel reading about the last judgment.

Is the CCHD the only "Catholic" charity that is tainted in this way or are there others? Are there any which it is safe to donate to?

20 posted on 11/23/2014 3:43:11 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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