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To: BCW

Here’s an interesting article about all the inventions made by Muslims that are an important part of the modern world.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/how-islamic-inventors-changed-the-world-469452.html

Unfortunately, when you start looking into the details of most of them, the date and location of the “invention” become less than self evident. Most of these turn out to probably not be Muslim in origin at all, though adopted and spread by Muslims.

If you really start to look into the origins of “inventions” over the millenia, a wildly disproportionate number came originally from China, startting at least 4000 years ago. This rate of invention continued up to the 1500s and then just seemed to stop, not only in comparison with the West which was just reaching takeoff technologically, but even on an absolute level.

The Chinese just stopped innovating. Never have heard a logical reason why. Interestingly, they haven’t really started up again. Very little true innovation has been done by Chinese in recent decades, even since their recent increases in freedom and prosperity. Certainly nothing to correspond with either their history, their numbers or their high average IQ. Very odd.


6 posted on 11/22/2014 4:01:19 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

We had some Islamic guy come in during 2006 to tour each Regional Embassy in Iraq - something the State Dept wanted to do...he sat there and basically talked down to us...fortunately, we also had the local Shia standing in the background to listen...this guy was a Sunni and his arrogance showed...afterwards, I was talking to a known Mahdi Militia infiltrator we kept around for a time and this guest speaker walked up to the both of us and said something in Arabic...very smug from what I could tell...afterwards, the Shia MM member looked at me and said without missing a beat, “I’d kill that guy if he wasn’t in here with you all!”

There will never be peace inside of Islam - and why would there be so outside...

Yes, China invested alot that the moslems picked up on...if it wasn’t for their expansion - driving the intellectuals into Europe - they wouldn’t have experienced the Enlightening period...so I guess that’s kinda a positive thing...I guess...


9 posted on 11/22/2014 4:13:39 AM PST by BCW (ARMIS EXPOSCERE PACEM)
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To: Sherman Logan

The Islamic claims to invention are, for the most part, like the Soviet claims in the early part of the 20th century, where Russian textbooks falsely attributed every modern invention to Communists, no matter how much evidence existed to the contrary. The rewriting of history is a common tactic in tyrannical, conquest-oriented societies.

Islam is violent and ruthless enough to overrun far more advanced societies, and after it does this, usually lives for a generation or two on the intellectual capital of the conquered people. But once it has crushed that, the society not only ceases to invent but even forgets how to use the earlier inventions.


13 posted on 11/22/2014 4:24:01 AM PST by livius
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To: Sherman Logan

They’ve been under totalitarian central control governments for millennia. Perhaps the reason for the lack of innovation is summed up in the Japanese saying ‘The nail that sticks out gets hammered down.’


43 posted on 11/23/2014 2:55:55 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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