Posted on 11/22/2014 3:12:25 AM PST by livius
In the face of the offensive of radical Islam, Francis’s idea is that “we must soothe the conflict.” And forget Regensburg. With serious harm also to the reformist currents of Islam...
It is impossible not to see in this the features of a “war of Islam” pushed to the extreme, fought in the name of Allah. It is illusory to deny the Islamic origin of this unbridled theological violence. This has been published even by the officially supervised “La Civiltà Cattolica,” only to be contradicted afterward by its fearsome director, Antonio Spadaro, the Jesuit who plays the role of Francis's interpreter.
On Islam the Catholic Church stammers, the more so the higher up the ladder one goes...
(Excerpt) Read more at chiesa.espresso.repubblica.it ...
Since his election, he has been busily undermining St. JP II's efforts to suppress liberation theology. Perhaps a certain sympathy with the leftist-Muslim political alliance which is gaining increasing momentum in the West could be at the root of his seemingly incomprehensible behavior.
No one could accuse either well-catechized, traditional Catholics or conservative Protestants of wearing blinders regarding the Islamic threat. However, both groups are in the minority within present-day, secularized Western society.
Couldn’t agree more
He’ll say that Muslims are a peaceful people, sharing the same God as we do and requesting they be allowed for Holy
Communion.
Exactly. Methinks they dost protest too much. Way too much.
Being a Catholic myself, it’s not so much the church structure I oppose, or the “organized” application of religion, but the worldliness that can seep into any power structure created by humans. “He who is greatest among you shall be your servant” doesn’t apply to how things are done in this world, but in the next, where Jesus is King. Giving any credence to this New Age religion of political correctness should have no place in the church. The Pope, being the figurative head of the church and Peter’s successor, chosen among many to serve rather than rule, should be less concerned about what this world thinks of as right and wrong. Because evil often hides behind good appearances, which is all you see from a worldly perspective.
Here is your answer why Islam is dangerous:
The “god” that the Muslims worship is NOT the same God as the God of the Holy Bible, rather it is SATAN the devil.
Allah = Satan.
Vatican II heresy.
The catechism is okay in some respects, totally PC and useless in others.
Islam is a syncretist cult that was formed of bits of other religions, so it has some Christian figures in it, a lot of Jewish law and Old Testament imagery, and a huge number of pagan symbols and practices, including the vagina shaped fertility cult meteorite in the Kaaba.
Unless Christian leaders get serious and look at the profound depth of the antithesis between Christianity and Islam, we’re in big trouble - and few of them are bothering. Benedict XVI tried, and they shot him down; I have always felt that whatever made him resign was probably related to this issue. And the current pope, Bergoglio, was known to be one of the leaders of the attacks on him.
Pope Francis loves the UN and the URI (United Religions Initiative, a syncretist group founded in San Francisco by the Episcopal bishops). It is said he loves Robert Hugh Benson’ book, Lord of the World; but my only question is which character he identifies with.
841 rejected in full.
While I agree that the section referenced is in turn, heresy, PC to the max, rejected. How does that square, when according to some sources: What exactly is in the Catechism? The Catechism contains the essential and fundamental content of the Catholic faith in a complete and summary way. It presents what Catholics throughout the world believe in common. It presents these truths in a way that facilitates their understanding.
What is the purpose of the Catechism? The Catechism serves several important functions: It conveys the essential and fundamental content of Catholic faith and morals in a complete and summary way. It is a point of reference for national and diocesan catechisms. It is a positive, objective and declarative exposition of Catholic doctrine. It is intended to assist those who have the duty to catechize, namely promoters and teachers of catechesis.
http://www.usccb.org/beliefs-and-teachings/what-we-believe/catechism/catechism-of-the-catholic-church/frequently-asked-questions-about-the-catechism-of-the-catholic-church.cfm
How then can it be disputed?
In light of what has been happening the last decade and a half, the sad reality is that when that when the CCC was put together, you did not have Islam resurging the way it has had the last 10-20 years. Plus its violence has made a mockery of CCC 841.
Looks like they need a rewrite.
CCC 841 is a teaching of the Vatican II Council. Do you believe that the Vatican II Council was a valid council of the Catholic Church? If so, how can you reject its teachings?
Truth is truth regardless of what has happened in the last 10-20 years. Either Muslims worship the same God as we do or they do not.
Ah, now you’re getting into why there is an SSPX, a Resistance, sedevacantists, etc. Although they differ in some respects, these groups of “traditional” Catholics all hold that there was error in the Vatican II documents. They hold that these teachings contradict Catholic teaching for hundreds of years.
Well said and thank you for kind measured reply on something as sensitive as an individual’s personal belief and faith.
I will agree that right now more than ever we need morale spiritual leaders of ideal character, godly grounded conviction.
I’m real concerned for our children and what they’re being handed.
The Catholic faith is not a sucide pact.
Do not believe how bad Muslims can be? Just ask the Middle Eastern Christians.
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