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Barack Obama's Mere Christianity (Osteen's too)
Townhall ^ | Nov 08, 2014 | John Nantz

Posted on 11/15/2014 6:09:48 AM PST by Gamecock

Is Barack Obama a Christian? Well, if you're inclined to agree with Joel Osteen the answer is, apparently, yes. However, if you feel that language has meaning apart from pop culture colloquialisms, you may arrive at a different conclusion.

The word Christian was first coined by the pagans at Antioch (Acts 11:26; 26:28). At its inception, the word was a descriptor, a word that denoted an objective set of facts about a person. To call someone a Christian, until fairly recently, meant that the person possessed a firm conviction regarding a defined set of doctrines. A Christian is, fundamentally, one who makes a claim to follow Christ and, therefore, subscribes to certain basic truths. This commonality of truths has been termed "mere" Christianity; they are objective and exclusive truths.

As C.S. Lewis so artfully put it in Mere Christianity, “When a word ceases to be a term of description and becomes merely a term of praise, it no longer tells you facts about the object: it only tells you about the speaker’s attitude to that object.”

Today, Christian has ceased to be a term of description. Calling someone a Christian, in common parlance, is the equivalent of saying, "hey, that dude is a really nice guy." It is meaningless. Not ironically, Osteen is the high priest of the disembodied platitude. His sermons float like a host of wondering specters, having been vivisected from the living corpus of Biblical doctrine. His cavernous church is like a gaping mouth, gumming wetly at spiritual mist, spun from the form of truth but butchered of its meaty substance. Osteen carefully carves the substance of sin, hell, repentance, and a host of other essential Christian doctrines from the bone and body of Divine Revelation. He offers a desiccated and shambling form of Christianity that crumbles to dust beneath the weighted majesty of the historical appellation. In his view, a person is a Christian if they simply acknowledge the fact that Christ is the risen Son of God. However, the devils believe and acknowledge the same, ”What have I to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of the most high God?”(Mark 5:7)

The essence of what it means to be a Christian is a distillation of truth made at once simple and profound by Christ Himself. His appeal is universal, but demands that He be approached in an exclusive manner. Christ says to the world, “Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat.”(Matthew 7:13,14) Christ is the gate and His work on the cross and subsequent resurrection are the only means by which faith may access redemption. The Scriptures shine with crystal clarity that a repentant acknowledgement of one’s sinfulness and insufficiency combined with a faith abandoned to all but Immanuel’s all sufficient crucifixion and resurrection are the keys to His kingdom and to personal reconciliation. (Romans 1:16,17; 3:10,23; 4:23; 10:9-13)

Osteen’s spectral form looms in the following verses in Matthew 7, “Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing…Ye shall know them by their fruits…Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name?…And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you; depart from me, ye that work iniquity.”(vs 15-23) Joel Osteen’s Christianity isn’t the mere Christianity of the apostles in Antioch, it’s merely a vacuous term of praise. And, Osteen is lavish with his praise of Obama.

Obviously, only Barack Hussein Obama knows if he’s a Christian. However, we are given the responsibility to examine people’s “fruit.”And, Obama’s fruit is worm-eaten and rotten. You only have to give a cursory glance at Obama’s record to conclude that he doesn’t behave in a manner that would qualify him to wear the title of Christian. First, Christians don’t support partial birth abortion. This one is really simple. Partially extracting a baby from his or her mother’s birth canal and stabbing it repeatedly in the skull is not a practice that a Christian or, for that matter, a functioning human being would condone. But, Barack Obama does. Second, Christians don’t support institutionalized theft. Barack Obama likes to call this “spreading the wealth around.”This is the progressivist euphemism for covetousness, greed, and government sponsored robbery. Third, and finally in this trinity of calumny, Christians are not characterized by dishonesty. I’m sure you’ve heard Obama quip, “if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor.”Or, “if you like your plan, you can keep your plan.”Actually, the list of lies would require a tome the size of War and Peace to fully catalogue. “And all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.”(Revelation 21:8) We’ve come quite a distance from George Washington’s “I cannot tell a lie.”

So, is Barack Hussein Obama a Christian? Judging by the man, a verdict of not guilty is in order. Osteen’s problem is that he confuses being a nice guy that you’d like to hang with as the equivalent of Christ’s Sons of Thunder. But, you can’t be too hard on Osteen, it’s hard to hear the clarion call of wisdom when your ears are pressed close to an old, leathery bag filled with forty pieces of tinkling silver.


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1 posted on 11/15/2014 6:09:48 AM PST by Gamecock
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2 posted on 11/15/2014 6:12:14 AM PST by Gamecock (USA, Ret. 27 years.)
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To: Gamecock

Christian? Nah Black Liberation Theologist. Basically it’s a place for black people that hate white people to meet on Sundays. They just quote scripture to keep up the illusion that it’s church.

Ask Jeremiah Wright how often Obama showed up at church. Not often at all. In fact I believe he was told to attend a “Christian” church so he could portray himself as a Christian when the time came or him to run for office and knew he would never get elected if he hadn’t. I can almost see Jarrett tying his windsor knot on Sunday telling him he has to show up several times at the church a year to paint the illusion he’s Christian or his run at the presidency will fail. I can almost hear Soros on the phone with Jarrett getting reports on how’s he’s coming along and asking if she thinks he’s ready yet then promising to wire the transfer to her or her “tutoring” sessions...


3 posted on 11/15/2014 6:22:53 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: jsanders2001

Christian? Nah Black Liberation Theologist. Basically it’s a place for black people that hate white people to meet on Sundays. They just quote scripture to keep up the illusion that it’s church.

Ask Jeremiah Wright how often Obama showed up at church. Not often at all. In fact I believe he was told to attend a “Christian” church so he could portray himself as a Christian when the time came or him to run for office and knew he would never get elected if he didn’t. I can almost see Jarrett tying his windsor knot on Sunday telling him he has to show up several times at the church a year to paint the illusion he’s Christian or his run at the presidency will fail. I can almost hear Soros on the phone with Jarrett getting reports on how’s he’s coming along and asking if she thinks he’s ready yet then promising to wire the transfer to her for her “tutoring” sessions...


4 posted on 11/15/2014 6:24:36 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: Gamecock

” ... leathery bag filled with forty pieces of tinkling silver.”


Should that mean thirty pieces?


5 posted on 11/15/2014 6:26:06 AM PST by boycott
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To: Gamecock

Excellent exposure of two poseurs.


6 posted on 11/15/2014 6:26:22 AM PST by dforest
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To: boycott

For Osteen, thirty pieces is not nearly enough!


7 posted on 11/15/2014 6:27:20 AM PST by dforest
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To: jsanders2001
Compare and contrast B. Clinton and B.H. Obama regarding church.

At least Clinton smiled when he went in the building, and carried the biggest Bible he could carry.

8 posted on 11/15/2014 6:27:49 AM PST by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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To: Gamecock

Obama is a muslim masquerading as a ‘christian’, while Osteen is a con-man in a long line of people like Gantry, Swaggert, and Baker.


9 posted on 11/15/2014 6:28:29 AM PST by expat2
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To: jsanders2001

Christian? Nah Black Liberation Theologist.


Yep. And they had the down low club at Obama’s church that was important to him.


10 posted on 11/15/2014 6:29:23 AM PST by boycott
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To: boycott

Well, yeah.

But the point is the same.


11 posted on 11/15/2014 6:29:42 AM PST by Gamecock (USA, Ret. 27 years.)
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To: Gamecock

He is a nationalist socialist communist homocentric muslim illegal alien, that is what he is. Not Christian, not American, he’s a foreign islamic creep with gender confusion who hates freedom and democracy. Christian life and behavior has nothing to do with what this fraud does.


12 posted on 11/15/2014 6:31:56 AM PST by FlyingEagle
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To: Gamecock

Obama has said before that he was Christian and he’s said before that he was muslim.

He says now that he is Christian for political reasons. If you asked him in front of the camera if he was Christian, he would say yes. I wonder what he would say if someone asked him if he was muslim? No one will ask him that.


13 posted on 11/15/2014 6:32:10 AM PST by boycott
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To: Gamecock

Well, yeah.

But the point is the same.


I agree that the point is that same.


14 posted on 11/15/2014 6:32:59 AM PST by boycott
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To: Gamecock

Sadly, many churches large and small, (most in this city) have succumbed to all or part of the mega church model because it works so well. Look carefully at what is going on in the churches near you. Perhaps even your own church is going down the path of the seeker-friendly movement.

Church debt, dwindling attendance and itching ears are leading many down the wide way to Hell. This is no surprise to anyone who knows Scripture. It’s all in The Book.

A President who says The United States is “no longer a Christian nation” is just a symptom and a harbinger of things to come. Actually it should be no shock any Bible believer who is observing the seasons.


15 posted on 11/15/2014 6:43:06 AM PST by Aleya2Fairlie
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To: boycott; Gamecock
>>Should that mean thirty pieces?<<

Inflation.

16 posted on 11/15/2014 6:48:28 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: expat2

Somehow Swaggart seems to be the best surname for the type. It sounds like a combination of swagger and braggart, totally fitting. He is one of three first cousins in show business, Jerry Lee Lewis, Mickey Gilley and of course himself in the https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5va1iaLj2M


17 posted on 11/15/2014 6:53:06 AM PST by RipSawyer (OPM is the religion of the sheeple.)
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To: CynicalBear; boycott
Speaking od peices of silver, what ever came of the $600K in Donations Stolen from Joel Osteen’s Mega-Church
18 posted on 11/15/2014 6:59:00 AM PST by Gamecock (USA, Ret. 27 years.)
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To: Gamecock; boycott
>>Speaking od peices of silver, what ever came of the $600K in Donations Stolen from Joel Osteen’s Mega-Church<<

I'm tellin ya I was here the whole time. My wife can testify that I was here and I've got the jars of canned chicken with the date on em proving I was canning chicken that day!

19 posted on 11/15/2014 7:16:24 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: FlyingEagle

Obama is not a nationalist. He’s an internationalist.


20 posted on 11/15/2014 7:36:30 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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