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If Mormon missionaries were straightforward about Mormonism…[Best 4-minute video on topic]
Mormon Coffee Blog ^ | Oct. 30, 2014 | Sharon Lindbloom

Posted on 11/10/2014 7:54:08 PM PST by Colofornian

Though done in a lighthearted manner, this 4-minute video is a fairly accurate depiction of standard Mormon doctrine. It would be nice if Mormon missionaries explained Mormonism as clearly as the characters in this video do, but I imagine that would not foster strong LDS Church growth.

Mormon Secrets: What the Missionaries Don’t Tell

By Saved XMormon

(Excerpt) Read more at blog.mrm.org ...


TOPICS: Apologetics; Other Christian; Theology
KEYWORDS: lds; missionaries; mormonbeliefs; mormonism
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To: rrrod
I find the rants amusing and entertaining.


"Now if any of you will deny the plurality of wives, and continue to do so, I promise that you will be damned;

and I will go still further and say, take this revelation, or any other revelation that the Lord has given,

and deny it in your feelings, and I promise that you will be damned.

Brigham Young - JoD 3:266 (July 14, 1855)

81 posted on 11/11/2014 11:14:47 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: trebb
If we would go after Democrats with the same zeal as many here use to go after Mormons (some are absolutely obsessed), we would have a better chance of being effective in the task of moving our government to the Right.

Ah!

So you DO still have the memo!!!


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December 11, 2011

Fellow MORMON Freeper Christians!!


I've been getting lots of feedback from those of you on Free Republic (spit) about a certain Colorfornicator (or something like that), who is REALLY giving us a hard time there.
 
Why not try to point out to the uninformed how OBSESSED he seems to be.    Let's see if we can tangle him up so much trying to defend his reputation that he'll no longer have as much time to post facts about MORMONism.
As always, Tommy M.


 

 

82 posted on 11/11/2014 11:21:21 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: trebb
If we would go after Democrats with the same zeal as many here use to go after Mormons (some are absolutely obsessed), we would have a better chance of being effective in the task of moving our government to the Right.

Hello Ma'am!

Are you a DEMOCRAT??


83 posted on 11/11/2014 11:22:52 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: trebb
I would have to hazard that, if you actually noticed how some of the Mormons try to defend themselves so poorly, you also noticed some of the crap that the Mormon haters have used against them...

Strange way to refer to Mormon QUOTES, Mormon SCRIPTURE, Mormon TEACHINGS, Mormon HISTORY...


Perhaps you have a SPECIFIC example that you'd like to point out.

84 posted on 11/11/2014 11:24:35 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Politicalkiddo
So what’s that Tabernacle Choir?

They are NOT Mormon Missionaries.

The MM give up a year of their lives (give or take) to work 10/6/365 (AFAIK) for their chosen religion.

(Not that they had much 'choice'; being born into it mostly.)

85 posted on 11/11/2014 11:27:16 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: MosesKnows
For the record ... Christianity is more a way of life than a religion for me and I do not condemn or condone those who choose another way.

It appears that you'll not make it to the upper levels of management.

86 posted on 11/11/2014 11:28:22 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Utah Binger

So...

...you DID ‘handle explosives’!

(While swimming...)


87 posted on 11/11/2014 11:29:37 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: MHGinTN

Going off DST has messed with my internal clock.

Getting up WAY too early in the morn gives me a leg up on all the evening postings.


88 posted on 11/11/2014 11:31:06 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: StormPrepper
If Linus had been the real leader of Jesus' true Church, Jesus would have appeared to Linus instead of John. But John was the real head of the Church, not Linus.

Don't you know your Bible?

There is only one head; and that is CHRIST.

89 posted on 11/11/2014 11:32:17 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: StormPrepper
The only reason Jesus gave for not communicating directly with man is apostasy.

Might you show me just WHERE this fact is recorded?

90 posted on 11/11/2014 11:36:18 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: StormPrepper
I stated a historical fact, Jesus visited John in 70AD even though Linus claimed to be leading the Church in 67AD.

There you go again.


Acts 1:11 (KJV)
Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.

91 posted on 11/11/2014 11:39:31 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Alex Murphy

THe history of the UTE Indians might have something about this


92 posted on 11/11/2014 11:40:46 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: trebb

//If we would go after Democrats with the same zeal as many here use to go after Mormons (some are absolutely obsessed), we would have a better chance of being effective in the task of moving our government to the Right.//

It is not hypocritical to share the truth about Mormonism, and some of us consider souls more valuable than politics.


93 posted on 11/11/2014 11:58:57 AM PST by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian. "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: Elsie
you DID ‘handle explosives’

Yes, their names were Birgit and Pia. Those were the days.

94 posted on 11/11/2014 12:18:30 PM PST by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where the world comes to see America)
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To: Elsie


95 posted on 11/11/2014 12:24:32 PM PST by Utah Binger (Southern Utah where the world comes to see America)
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To: Elsie

And you still have the obsession...


96 posted on 11/11/2014 12:59:47 PM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: trebb; Elsie; All
(to elsie) And you still have the obsession...

Since I believe Mormons are now zeroing in on a literal one BILLION endowments for the dead, you be sure to let us know when you might have time to comment upon a group people performing HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS of religious rituals on behalf of the dead as "obsessive"...

...Versus you taking the time to comment on a single poster's few flips on the digital radar...

(And then...when we DON'T hear that commentary forthcoming from you...we'll see that certain religious expressions are sanctioned by you by your very silence, eh?)

97 posted on 11/11/2014 1:39:19 PM PST by Colofornian
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To: Elsie
It appears that you'll not make it to the upper levels of management

Perhaps not but accepting Jesus as my savior is as "upper" as it gets. I don't know how to improve on Colossians Chapter 1:27, do you?

98 posted on 11/11/2014 2:17:46 PM PST by MosesKnows (Love many, trust few, and always paddle your own canoe.)
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To: Colofornian
Why aren't you more "Christ-like"

Using the New Testament as my source I can do all that Jesus did ... and more.

99 posted on 11/11/2014 2:24:06 PM PST by MosesKnows (Love many, trust few, and always paddle your own canoe.)
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To: trebb
And you still have the obsession...

You bet your soul I do!!





"You see some classes of the human family that are black, uncouth, uncomely, disagreeable and low in their habits, wild, and seemingly deprived of nearly all the blessings of the intelligence that is generally bestowed upon mankind.

The first man that committed the odious crime of killing one of his brethren will be cursed the longest of any one of the children of Adam. Cain slew his brother. Cain might have been killed, and that would have put a termination to that line of human beings.

This was not to be, and the Lord put a mark upon him, which is the flat nose and black skin. Trace mankind down to after the flood, and then another curse is pronounced upon the same race--that they should be the 'servant of servants', and they will be, until that curse is removed."

Brigham Young-President and second 'Prophet' of the Mormon Church, 1844-1877- Extract from Journal of Discourses.



Here are two examples from their 'other testament', the Book of Mormon.

2 Nephi 5: 21 'And he had caused the cursing to come upon them, yea, even a sore cursing, because of their iniquity. For behold, they had hardened their hearts against him, that they had become like unto a flint; wherefore, as they were white, and exceedingly fair and delightsome, that they might not be enticing unto my people, the Lord God did cause a skin of blackness to come upon them.'

Alma 3: 6 'And the skins of the Lamanites were dark, according to the mark which was set upon their fathers, which was a curse upon them because of their transgression and their rebellion against their brethren, who consisted of Nephi, Jacob and Joseph, and Sam, who were just and holy men.'



August 27, 1954 in an address at Brigham Young University (BYU), Mormon Elder, Mark E Peterson, in speaking to a convention of teachers of religion at the college level, said:

"The discussion on civil rights, especially over the last 20 years, has drawn some very sharp lines. It has blinded the thinking of some of our own people, I believe. They have allowed their political affiliations to color their thinking to some extent.I think I have read enough to give you an idea of what the Negro is after."

"He is not just seeking the opportunity of sitting down in a cafe where white people eat. He isn't just trying to ride on the same streetcar or the same Pullman car with white people. It isn't that he just desires to go to the same theater as the white people. From this, and other interviews I have read, it appears that the Negro seeks absorption with the white race. He will not be satisfied until he achieves it by intermarriage."

"That is his objective and we must face it. We must not allow our feelings to carry us away, nor must we feel so sorry for Negroes that we will open our arms and embrace them with everything we have. Remember the little statement that we used to say about sin, 'First we pity, then endure, then embrace'...."

(Rosa Parks would have probably told Petersen under which wheel of the bus he should go sit.)



1967, (then) Mormon President Ezra Taft Benson said,

"The Communist program for revolution in America has been in progress for many years and is far advanced. First of all, we must not place the blame upon Negroes. They are merely the unfortunate group that has been selected by professional Communist agitators to be used as the primary source of cannon fodder."



We are told that on June 8, 1978, it was 'revealed' to the then president, Spencer Kimball, that people of color could now gain entry into the priesthood.

According to the church, Kimball spent many long hours petitioning God, begging him to give worthy black people the priesthood. God finally relented.



Sometime before the 'revelation' came to chief 'Prophet' Spencer Kimball in June 1978, General Authority, Bruce R McConkie had said:

"The Blacks are denied the Priesthood; under no circumstances can they hold this delegation of authority from the Almighty.

The Negroes are not equal with other races where the receipt of certain blessings are concerned, particularly the priesthood and the temple blessings that flow there from, but this inequality is not of man's origin, it is the Lord's doings."

(Mormon Doctrine, pp. 526-527).



When Mormon 'Apostle' Mark E Petersen spoke on 'Race Problems- As they affect the Church' at the BYU campus in 1954, the following was also said:

"...if the negro accepts the gospel with real, sincere faith, and is really converted, to give him the blessings of baptism and the gift of the Holy Ghost, he can and will enter the celestial kingdom. He will go there as a servant, but he will get celestial glory."



When Mormon 'Prophet' and second President of the Church, Brigham Young, spoke in 1863 the following was also said:

"Shall I tell you the law of God in regard to the African race? If the white man who belongs to the chosen seed mixes his blood with the seed of Cain, the penalty, under the law of God is death on the spot. This will always be so."

(Journal of Discourses, Vo. 10, p. 110)





Yeah; Native Americans are althroughout the Book of MORMON; too.

 

“I saw a striking contrast in the progress of the Indian people today ... they are fast becoming a white and delightsome people.... For years they have been growing delightsome, and they are now becoming white and delightsome, as they were promised.... The children in the home placement program in Utah are often lighter than their brothers and sisters in the hogans on the reservation.

At one meeting a father and mother and their sixteen-year-old daughter were present, the little member girl-sixteen-sitting between the dark father and mother, and it was evident she was several shades lighter than her parents—on the same reservation, in the same hogan, subject to the same sun and wind and weather.... These young members of the Church are changing to whiteness and to delightsomeness.

One white elder jokingly said that he and his companion were donating blood regularly to the hospital in the hope that the process might be accelerated.

 

(Improvement Era, December 1960, pp.922-23). (p. 209)

 



 

100 posted on 11/11/2014 6:03:21 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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