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To: boatbums; daniel1212

So ultimately it comes down to a matter of scriptural interpretation doesn’t it?

Does one accept the teachings of the Catholic Church with its 2000 year history, the traditions accepted by the early Church Fathers, the doctrine of the Eucharist as analyzed and established through the centuries by eminent theologians from Augustine to Aquinas to Newman to Benedict as well as several leading Protestant theologians who have converted to Catholicism, the lives of saints, martyrs, and stigmatists who have lived and practiced the Catholic faith, and a faith with a consistent Credo that has spread to the four corners of the world

or

do we accept the mudslide of eclectic interpretations offered by every Tom, Dick and Harry, and pastor of every corner street Foursquare Church, street preachers like the Grahams, Schullers, Jim Jones, David Koresh’s; Jimmy Swaggarts, TD Jakes’s, Jehovah’s Witnesses, Mormons, or for that matter any person who cracks open the pages of the Bible and purports to offer a definitive interpretation, or like many of the mainline Lutheran, Episcopalian, and Presbyterian Churches whose pastors may be married homosexuals and lesbians, because of what “they” believe is “their” interpretation of the Bible.

The question answers itself.


274 posted on 11/13/2014 7:32:08 PM PST by Steelfish (ui)
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To: Steelfish
Nope..it comes down to what the Bible says. Everything a person needs to know to be saved is clearly written and, with the Holy Spirit as guide to all truth, anyone can know it. All that extraneous stuff Catholicism developed over the centuries either isn't part of the gospel or perverts the gospel. Continue to be impressed by celebrity, I'll stick to Jesus, the ONLY one that deserves all glory, honor and praise for HE alone is the Savior of my soul.
276 posted on 11/13/2014 7:48:48 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: Steelfish
I just LOVE the way you can make the Appeal to Authority sound SO good!
279 posted on 11/13/2014 8:08:17 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Steelfish; boatbums; redleghunter; Springfield Reformer; mitch5501; BlueDragon; ...
Does one accept the teachings of the Catholic Church with its 2000 year history, the traditions accepted by the early Church Fathers,

You have have ignored all three of my responses to you and their questions, and instead blithely engaging in the same specious polemic and its false dilemma instead, and instead blithely engaged in the same specious polemic and its false dilemma .

Some advocate of scholarship.

But to clarify, is your argument that we must follow the historical magisterium and the lettered, or even that an infallible magisterium is essential for determination and assurance of Truth, so that there can be no valid dissent from it, even on the basis of Scriptural substantiation.

And which model precludes Mormonic types etc., or a church in disarray and its people confused, and which is the only alternative if one rejects the Roman model?

Or do you want to equivocate and move the goal posts? Its your argument so you must defend it. Try to answer this time.

281 posted on 11/13/2014 8:55:07 PM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: Steelfish

You’re still posting on this?

About 50 posts ago your post hit the canvass and the 10 count was given.


285 posted on 11/13/2014 9:28:00 PM PST by redleghunter (But let your word 'yes be 'yes,' and your 'no be 'no.' Anything more than this is from the evil one.)
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To: Steelfish

“So ultimately it comes down to a matter of scriptural interpretation doesn’t it?

Does one accept the teachings of the Catholic Church with its 2000 year history, the traditions accepted by the early Church Fathers, the doctrine of the Eucharist as analyzed and established through the centuries by eminent theologians from Augustine to Aquinas to Newman to Benedict as well as several leading Protestant theologians who have converted to Catholicism, the lives of saints, martyrs, and stigmatists who have lived and practiced the Catholic faith, and a faith with a consistent Credo that has spread to the four corners of the world

or

do we accept the mudslide of eclectic interpretations offered by every Tom, Dick and Harry, and pastor of every corner street Foursquare Church, street preachers like the Grahams, Schullers, Jim Jones, David Koresh’s; Jimmy Swaggarts, TD Jakes’s, Jehovah’s Witnesses, Mormons, or for that matter any person who cracks open the pages of the Bible and purports to offer a definitive interpretation, or like many of the mainline Lutheran, Episcopalian, and Presbyterian Churches whose pastors may be married homosexuals and lesbians, because of what “they” believe is “their” interpretation of the Bible.

The question answers itself”

Best reply of the month. But common sense is not in abundance when some have been brainwashed against Catholicism since birth.


288 posted on 11/13/2014 9:34:55 PM PST by NKP_Vet ("PRO FIDE, PRO UTILITATE HOMINUM")
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