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US BISHOPS STRUGGLING UNDER FRANCIS' PONTIFICATE
AP ^ | 11/8/2014 | RACHEL ZOLL, AP RELIGION WRITER

Posted on 11/09/2014 12:27:43 PM PST by SeekAndFind

U.S. Roman Catholic bishops are gathering at a moment of turbulence for them and the American church, as Pope Francis moves toward crafting new policies for carrying out his mission of mercy - a prospect that has conservative Catholics and some bishops in an uproar.

The assembly, which starts Monday in Baltimore, comes less than a month after Francis ended a dramatic Vatican meeting on how the church can more compassionately minister to Catholic families.

The gathering in Rome was only a prelude to a larger meeting next year which will more concretely advise Francis on church practice. Still, the open debate at the event, and the back and forth among bishops over welcoming gays and divorced Catholics who remarry, prompted stunning criticism from some U.S. bishops.

"Many of the U.S. bishops have been disoriented by what this new pope is saying and I don't see them really as embracing the pope's agenda," said John Thavis, a former Rome bureau chief for Catholic News Service. "To a large degree, the U.S. bishops have lost their bearings. I think up until now, they felt Rome had their back, and what they were saying - especially politically - would eventually be supported in Rome. They can't count on that now."

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TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: bishops; catholicism; popefrancis; vatican

1 posted on 11/09/2014 12:27:43 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

I believe this was already posted?


2 posted on 11/09/2014 12:29:18 PM PST by piusv
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To: SeekAndFind

As a Catholic, I say we need a new Pope.


3 posted on 11/09/2014 12:30:18 PM PST by Reno89519 (For every illegal with a job, there's an American without one.)
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To: SeekAndFind

We should pay no real attention to the secular press and get on our knees and pray.


4 posted on 11/09/2014 1:06:55 PM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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To: SeekAndFind

Catholicism lost its way in the late 50’S. It seemed solid and consistent until then. As it liberalized and tolerated more and more sin, I left in the early 60’s. It just seems to have gone lower and lower since, as it loses sight of God and its moral code.


5 posted on 11/09/2014 1:17:08 PM PST by Rapscallion (Americans are led by a vindictive snot.)
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To: Rapscallion

You found a church that doesn’t allow sinners?


6 posted on 11/09/2014 1:32:47 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: SeekAndFind

Organized religion, Catholic or otherwise is the ultimate example of hypocrisy.


7 posted on 11/09/2014 1:42:59 PM PST by lewislynn (What does the global warming movement and the Fairtax movement have in common? Disinformation)
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To: Reno89519
As a Catholic, I say we need a new Pope.

Would you take an old Pope? We still have a slightly used one in the garage.

9 posted on 11/09/2014 3:24:25 PM PST by KarlInOhio (The IRS: either criminally irresponsible in backup procedures or criminally responsible of coverup.)
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To: Rapscallion

And just what religion are you today practicing?? Bet you don’t answer.


10 posted on 11/09/2014 3:50:15 PM PST by Ann Archy (ABORTION....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Rapscallion

“Catholicism lost its way in the late 50’S. It seemed solid and consistent until then. As it liberalized and tolerated more and more sin, I left in the early 60’s. It just seems to have gone lower and lower since, as it loses sight of God and its moral code.”

I agree, save for the “I left...” part.

The church left us, not visa versa.


11 posted on 11/09/2014 3:50:47 PM PST by Da Coyote
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To: Rapscallion
Catholicism lost its way in the late 50’S. It seemed solid and consistent until then. As it liberalized and tolerated more and more sin, I left in the early 60’s. It just seems to have gone lower and lower since, as it loses sight of God and its moral code.

that is hilarious!!!! the 2,000 year old church that Christ Himself founded lost its way in the 1950's and so you decided that they were wrong, you were right, and fled to some obscure protestant denomination, or even worse, denied religion altogether.....WOW, this is probably the first time in church history that anyone ever doubted some of her teachings and they( the teachings) have been correct every time!!!!!Good grief, read a little history and understand some of the real challenges that Catholicism has faced over 20 CENTURIES. Our country faces challenges and it is just a little over 200 years old....Reconsider your very poor choice in leaving the true church of Christ...it will welcome you back readily and it is still the only One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic church on Earth...

12 posted on 11/09/2014 4:12:10 PM PST by terycarl (common sense prevails over all)
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To: lewislynn
Organized religion, Catholic or otherwise is the ultimate example of hypocrisy.

yeah right....everyone gets to do it in his own way.....good luck with that!!

13 posted on 11/09/2014 4:16:36 PM PST by terycarl (common sense prevails over all)
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To: terycarl

Thank you, your comments need saying, and often. And I’m a FAR FAR from “ideal” Catholic.


14 posted on 11/09/2014 4:18:50 PM PST by workerbee (The President of the United States is PUBLIC ENEMY #1)
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To: piusv

RE: I believe this was already posted?

If it were, it wouldn’t be using the title of this thread. I used the FR search facility and only my thread came up with this title.


15 posted on 11/09/2014 4:20:10 PM PST by SeekAndFind (If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test.)
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To: lewislynn
Organized religion, Catholic or otherwise is the ultimate example of hypocrisy.

How do you feel about disorganized religion?

16 posted on 11/10/2014 7:18:00 AM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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