Posted on 11/09/2014 10:10:11 AM PST by ebb tide
That story subverts any Church teaching we have taught in the past and it neutralizes if not renders completely ineffective, any attempt we make to persuade them that celibacy, chastity, Sacramental Marriage until death, Sunday obligation and other explanations in the Catechism about the Ten Commandments in the future.
Ping
Seems he fired a couple of Jesuits in Argentina when they didn’t do as told. There was a lengthly dissertation on the incident and it made me go hmmmmm.
To whom is he referring when he writes of " long suffering Catholic journalists who have been luring our children into adultery and sexual debauchery"?
Who are these "long-suffering" journalists?
Marking for later.
Cardinal Burke was demoted for being a faithful Catholic, while the great reformer reinstated language concerning homosexuals in the Synod’s final document. The rule governing the language of the Synod which required two thirds of the bishops to vote in favor was swept aside by Francis, so that the original language concerning homosexuals will remain in the final document. So much for open and fair discussions.
This is just the beginning. Be prepared. The smears against traditional, faithful Catholics will intensify as Francis attempts to destroy the Catholic Church.
re: the Schism
Pope St. Pius X declared in his encyclical “Pascendi Dominici Gregis” (1907) that Modernism is the “synthesis of all heresies.” For those who don’t know what Modernism is, in a nutshell it denies that God has revealed Truth, that there is a Right and a Wrong, and that there is a way for us to know it, namely from Sacred Scripture. Modernism says, “Since we can’t know for sure what is right and what is wrong, I’ll just go with what I feel. What you’re saying may be true for you, but not for me.” When “Bishop of Rome” Bergolio said, “Who am I to judge?” it was one more Modernist mark against him. With this recent synod, I am convinced that he is a full-blown Modernist. Which, according to Pope St. Pius X, makes him a heretic.
We then next come to “Cum Ex Apostolic Officio,” issued 15 Feb. 1559 by Pope Paul IV which focused on the validity of a prelate or Pope in the event they were in heresy or apostasy. It says, among other things, that the Pope must be contradicted if he is found to have deviated from the Faith, and that if he has been found to be a heretic, he has no authority. It permits those who should offer him their obedience to withdraw it at any time without being subject to the retribution of any censures or penalties. This Bull was issued “Ex cathedra” and is considered not only infallible, but to be held in perpetuity.
It would behoove all of us to become intimately familiar with these two encyclicals, in order to have facts and the teachings of the Church in our arsenal.
This reads like the rantings of a lunatic, and a poor writer, at that.
Cardinal Burke is a great and holy man, and should be a model for all priests. However, the religious life isn’t about politics, nor is it about careerism.
Some of the greatest saints have been door holders, children, and shepherds. Saints are also obedient (Padre Pio).
While Cardinal Burke has been called the Athanasius of our day, I sincerely doubt his reassignment is the big deal people are making it out to be.
There is so much bluster signifying nothing. Has any doctrine or dogma been changed? Nope. The only change in the Universal Church has been the addition of St. Joseph in the Eucharistic Prayer.
Please, will all those crying “End Times!” please take hope. We have the promise of Our Lord the gates of Hell will not prevail. Let not your hearts be troubled. If you are worried, then pray. Pray for all priests and bishops, as you did at Mass today.
Whoever criticizes either side will be like a policeman intervening in a domestic dispute. Certain death. Catholic-bashers, haters, etc., ad nauseum.
Not an atypical statement from the Francis worshippers: if you don't like the message, personally attack the messenger.
Kasper did it to the African bishops as Francis does it to traditionalists. Welcome to their club.
Not a big deal at all when a Pope behaves like a vindictive and mean-spirited tyrant and banishes a faithful and holy servant of God while elevating porno-peddlers such as Cdls. Kasper and Marx to his innermost circle. We should all emulate this Christ-like example.
And another thing! I urge you to be wary against the sin of pride. The Holy Spirit guided the Papal Electors and has given us this Pope, the Vicar of Christ on Earth.
If one proposes they are “more Catholic than the Pope,” they should carefully examine their consciences.
Perhaps a glance in the mirror may be in order.
That's mighty presumptuous on your part.
I counter that you and Francis are being manipulated by the Devil.
I don't propose giving Holy Communion to adulterers, I don't see the value of homosexual relationships, etc.
This is the way the church was when I was young. We had dyke nuns telling us when we were young that abortion was like removing a wart. Homos abused boys.
Given the problems of homosexual perverts in the church attacking other people’s children, I would feel real uncomfortable having my children in the church where they think they will get away with their “sexuality”. Perverts tell themselves all kinds of bizarre stuff to rationalize what they do. Pervert priests have the advantage of unquestionable authority and trust as well. Give them an inch and they will take one thousand miles before you can turn around. They are mental and so are their abettors.
If Francis unleashes the homos and their “compassionate” Bishop and Cardinal madams, get your kids into a different Christian place or do home school religion lessons and Mass at home with them. God put them in your hands and He knows. There will be a lot of home churches as liberals “progress” into queering and globalizing the Christian church organizations and institutions.
As liberals impose Christlam on Christians, look over to Britain to see how the Muslims treat the little female infidels they have access to.
I tend to agree. The papal electors had to know who Francis was before they ever elected him. If you just go by what the Pope has actually said and not all the peripheral noise he has not done or said anything to cause a schism.
While we may hope that the Holy Spirit does so, there is NOTHING in the teaching of the Catholic Church concerning the Conclave. The votes in the Conclave are NOT exercises of the Magisterium of the Church. And it is ONLY the Magisterium of the Church that is the subject of Christ's promises of inerrancy. In other words: The notion that the decision of a conclave must have been right because "the Holy Spirit chooses the Pope" is SUPERSTITION.
When two or three of you are gathered in my name, I will be there.
The Cardinal Electors invoke the Holy Spirit to be their guide. While the Holy Spirit doesn’t actively pick the next Pope, as each Elector is free to make their own choice, it does make sense God’s guiding hand is there.
While I respect the many posts you have made, and the intellectual rigor you apply to them, allow me to highlight the following from the CCC:
100 The task of interpreting the Word of God authentically has been entrusted solely to the Magisterium of the Church, that is, to the Pope and to the bishops in communion with him.
While we are in agreement about the accuracy of your statement, allow me to also take this opportunity to remind fellow Catholics of the following (again from the CCC):
85 “The task of giving an authentic interpretation of the Word of God, whether in its written form or in the form of Tradition, has been entrusted to the living teaching office of the Church alone. Its authority in this matter is exercised in the name of Jesus Christ.”47 This means that the task of interpretation has been entrusted to the bishops in communion with the successor of Peter, the Bishop of Rome.
86 “Yet this Magisterium is not superior to the Word of God, but is its servant. It teaches only what has been handed on to it. At the divine command and with the help of the Holy Spirit, it listens to this devotedly, guards it with dedication and expounds it faithfully. All that it proposes for belief as being divinely revealed is drawn from this single deposit of faith.”48
87 Mindful of Christ’s words to his apostles: “He who hears you, hears me”,49 the faithful receive with docility the teachings and directives that their pastors give them in different forms.
With all of the bashing of Pope Francis, I think it is important to remember he is the Pope. God is allowing it. It is our job to believe God will protect the Church, its dogmata, and to pray for all of those who serve Him, regardless of their level of impeccability.
If the Pope and his brother bishops are weak, then we should, in charity, pray more vigorously. If our brother strays, do we give up? No. So, if one believes the Pope is somehow deficient in one thing or the other, pray, pray without ceasing for him! He is only a man, and needs our prayerful assistance.
I didn’t read he wants to do that either. What I have read is any number of articles, full of factual errors, as well as errors of omission.
He has reiterated what is in the Catechism, which was conveniently left out in the reporting of “Who am I to judge?” statement.
I have read any number of articles about people who claim to be speaking for the Pope, which are also full of wishful thinking.
Finally, we are in agreement that any US bishop who refuses to enforce canon 915 is worthy of criticism and letters to the Congregation of the Clergy, the Apostolic Nuncio, CDF, and other Curial Congregations.
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