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To: CynicalBear
The Apostle James and Messiah testify we must have works, not sola fide. What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?

I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars:

Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent.

I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

13 I know thy works, and where thou dwellest, even where Satan's seat is: and thou holdest fast my name, and hast not denied my faith, even in those days wherein Antipas was my faithful martyr, who was slain among you, where Satan dwelleth.

I know thy works, and charity, and service, and faith, and thy patience, and thy works; and the last to be more than the first.

And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.

And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:

Be watchful, and strengthen the things which remain, that are ready to die: for I have not found thy works perfect before God.

I know thy works: behold, I have set before thee an open door, and no man can shut it: for thou hast a little strength, and hast kept my word, and hast not denied my name.

I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot.




192 posted on 11/07/2014 8:07:10 AM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: af_vet_1981
dude,

there's not a Christian who denies you produce fruit/works for Christ.

however, the fruit/works aren't what saves you. they are a result of the faith in Christ.

It is the one time sacrifice of Christ and His Blood and the belief in that that gives us eternal life.

As Paul noted in Phil 3:7-9

7But whatever things were gain to me, those things I have counted as loss for the sake of Christ.

8More than that, I count all things to be loss in view of the surpassing value of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord, for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and count them but rubbish so that I may gain Christ,

9and may be found in Him, not having a righteousness of my own derived from the Law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which comes from God on the basis of faith,…

194 posted on 11/07/2014 8:22:38 AM PST by ealgeone
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To: af_vet_1981

Take it up with Jesus. It was He who make the statement “This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.”


195 posted on 11/07/2014 8:27:16 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: af_vet_1981; EagleOne; CynicalBear

Why do you copy and paste verses and partial verses, then put them together as if they were all from the same passage? Is this why you refuse to post the references to book, chapter and verse? Do you not realize how deceptive it appears? What would you think if someone did that with your Catechism?


302 posted on 11/07/2014 8:06:38 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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