Sources of the Protestant Devolution

Catholic Stand ^ | November 6, 2014 | Matthew Tyson

[RFEngineer]

“That is not presumption. That is taking God at His word. It’s called *trust* and *faith*.”

That is precisely why mortal man cannot know if one is worthy of heaven or eternal damnation - everybody falls short. Everyone.

[CynicalBear]

>>We aren’t saying that folks are going to hell because we’ve determined their affiliation to be worthy of eternal damnation.<<

Galatians 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

We have enough scripture to understand and let God tell us.

[CynicalBear]

>>That is precisely why mortal man cannot know if one is worthy of heaven or eternal damnation - everybody falls short. Everyone.<<

It's not us that the Father looks at. It's Christ in us. Those who are looking to themselves will fall catastrophically short.

[metmom]

We aren’t saying that folks are going to hell because we’ve determined their affiliation to be worthy of eternal damnation.

Show me where I EVER said that.

However, that IS the official Catholic position, spoken by many of your popes.

[metmom]

That is precisely why mortal man cannot know if one is worthy of heaven or eternal damnation - everybody falls short. Everyone.

Exactly.

That's why it's based on God's mercy and grace and the gift of forgiveness that God offers those who trust Him.

[WVKayaker]

That is precisely why mortal man cannot know if one is worthy of heaven or eternal damnation - everybody falls short. Everyone.

Ignorance is bliss for some people. It is a shame that the simple Truth cannot be seen through the indoctrinal catechism of the Roman Catholic religious.

Paul wrote much on the subject and explained it in detail. He offers himself as a prime example of our place in God's economy.

Romans 7: 4 We know that the law is spiritual; but I am unspiritual, sold as a slave to sin. 15 I do not understand what I do. For what I want to do I do not do, but what I hate I do. 16 And if I do what I do not want to do, I agree that the law is good. 17 As it is, it is no longer I myself who do it, but it is sin living in me. 18 For I know that good itself does not dwell in me, that is, in my sinful nature. For I have the desire to do what is good, but I cannot carry it out. 19 For I do not do the good I want to do, but the evil I do not want to do—this I keep on doing. 20 Now if I do what I do not want to do, it is no longer I who do it, but it is sin living in me that does it.

21 So I find this law at work: Although I want to do good, evil is right there with me. 22 For in my inner being I delight in God’s law; 23 but I see another law at work in me, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin at work within me. 24 What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body that is subject to death? 25 Thanks be to God, who delivers me through Jesus Christ our Lord! ...

8: 8 ... 1Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus, 2 because through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit who gives life has set you free from the law of sin and death. 3 For what the law was powerless to do because it was weakened by the flesh, God did by sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh to be a sin offering. And so he condemned sin in the flesh, 4 in order that the righteous requirement of the law might be fully met in us, who do not live according to the flesh but according to the Spirit.

5 Those who live according to the flesh have their minds set on what the flesh desires; but those who live in accordance with the Spirit have their minds set on what the Spirit desires. 6 The mind governed by the flesh is death, but the mind governed by the Spirit is life and peace. 7 The mind governed by the flesh is hostile to God; it does not submit to God’s law, nor can it do so. 8 Those who are in the realm of the flesh cannot please God. ... (NIV)

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[metmom]

AMEN!!!!

[boatbums]

Matthew 11:16, 17 then Matthew 15:1-9, for those who want to look up the passages and read them IN CONTEXT.

[daniel1212]

Don’t forget “do penance” instead of “repent” and “she shall crush thy head” instead of “HE shall crush thy head”.

Yes, but that is not the case with the NAB.

[RFEngineer]

“However, that IS the official Catholic position, spoken by many of your popes.”

??? I’m not Catholic.

[RFEngineer]

“Show me where I EVER said that.”

Are you saying that you DO think that folks, based on their religion, are worthy of eternal damnation? I was pretty sure you’d never say that.

Maybe you mistook “Aren’t” for “are”

[af_vet_1981]

??? I’m not Catholic.

Next time, mention that before the posse puts the rope around your neck ...

[caww]

What a beautiful post full of confirmation scripture that we are as believers fully secure in Him!... Such Grace...such Amazing Grace!... How sweet the sound indeed!

[caww]

...."It's not us that the Father looks at. It's Christ in us"....

[metmom]

Are you saying that you DO think that folks, based on their religion, are worthy of eternal damnation? I was pretty sure you’d never say that.

Nope, and I never did.

Maybe you mistook “Aren’t” for “are”

It wouldn't surprise me......

[Elsie]

Yes, Narses was hurt,...

His own fault; for not using any logic in his responses to...

...or accusing Catholics of raping babies...

Chase it back down; and you'll see this was NOT what was posted originally, but that the Sun God folks were doing this.

Yes, the Catholic religion WAS compared to having it's basis in the Sun God religion; but to get your panties in a wad and make the LEAP that CATHOLICS ARE RAPING BABIES was a jump n made all all his own.

When other folks (even the Boss) wouldn't go along with his flimsy strawman, he took his umbrage, put it in his car and drove off in a 1930's Snit.

[Elsie]

The KJV mistranslated the Greek word (porna) for harlot into whore. (further protestant butchering of the bible) The correct translation is that St. John sees the great harlot.

I'm glad THIS glaring difference has been noted!!

DAMN them Protestant butchers all to Hell!!

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vatican/esp_vatican29.htm

[Elsie]

Revelation 17:1 And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore (porné) that sitteth upon many waters:

 

 

And those seven churches were ALL Catholic!!!

 

Yet; Rome owns THIS one all right!!

[Elsie]

So the KJV using "whore" - "woman who engages in sexual intercourse for money" for harlot - "a woman who engages in sexual intercourse for money" is "butchering the Bible?

Pete, it's a fool that looks for logic in the chambers of the human heart.

[Elsie]

You’re as bad as the author of the article when you say you know who is going to hell and why - I’d be remiss if I didn’t point that out.

Likewise; I'd be lacking by NOT posting this:

John 3:18 Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)

He that believeth in him is not judged. But he that doth not believe, is already judged: because he believeth not in the name of the only begotten Son of God.