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To: af_vet_1981
>>In fact, we see in Isaiah 53 as well as 2 Corinthians 5 that Messiah became the sin offering for the living and the dead.<<

You still didn't show where God designated sacrifices that the Jews were to give for the dead. Jesus sacrifice was NOT one of the sacrifices the Jews were commanded by God to give.

>>I think you mischaracterized the speaker in your post.<<

No I didn't. I claimed it was the Holy Spirit who was speaking through John. Your statement was "No, that is what the scripture says." Scripture IS the Holy Spirit speaking through the writers.

316 posted on 11/04/2014 5:33:36 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: CynicalBear
Jesus sacrifice was NOT one of the sacrifices the Jews were commanded by God to give.

I assume you will accept that Jesus is a Jew.

As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep. 16And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd. 17Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again. 18No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.

No I didn't. I claimed it was the Holy Spirit who was speaking through John. Your statement was "No, that is what the scripture says." Scripture IS the Holy Spirit speaking through the writers.

You wrote "The Holy Spirit says this." and then listed the verse for 1 John 1:7. I listed two verses where the Holy Spirit did actually speak. You did not write the Holy Spirit was speaking through John, you wrote the Holy Spirit said those words.

318 posted on 11/04/2014 6:51:58 PM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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